Just IF I was going to do a patina finish...Do I just spray clear over the clean metal/rust? Surely there's more to it than that????
Patina...How to???
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ChrisRomello
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Pretty much yeah; you want to lightly sand it with maybe 600-800 grit (wet) and use a good “ high solid” clearcoat. Wash it really good before you sand it and use a wax and grease remover right before you clear
Cleared over shiny rust is the gheyest thing ever. All the Chevy guys do it. Find something that leaves a dull finish. There are plenty of dull clears on the market to achieve this.
Not that I have ever done it before but here is my opinion. Your going to want to wash it really good with soap and a medium bristle brush. I agree with a light sanding and a good wipe down. I would use a matte or flat clear coat on it.
Edit: Rusty beat me to the punch on the clear coat. I agree, shiny clear will look terrible.
Edit: Rusty beat me to the punch on the clear coat. I agree, shiny clear will look terrible.
dano
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Never understood intended patina. My cousin did it to his 55 Ford F100 that had a gorgeous yellow paint job my uncle did. My uncle is the kind that if it isn't just right he strips and redoes it, even if he is the only one that seems or knows about the blem. Now it looks like polished rust, but I guess it stands out in the sea of patina'd, air bagged, LS swapped C10's in Phoenix.
If you want patina leave it alone and let it come on it's own because that's what patina is, aged wear.
If you want patina leave it alone and let it come on it's own because that's what patina is, aged wear.
moparmat2000
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The beat to **** look. Nope not a fan of it myself.
MerlinsMopar
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I never quite understood why anyone would look at an old rusty, dented vehicle and think, that rusted , worn out paint looks great!
All my life, all I ever wanted is to take an old vehicle and restore it to new.
Just don't make sense unless its supposed to be a sleeper type that rides and drives like new but looks like its supposed to be in a junkyard, and that really don't make sense. Lol!
All my life, all I ever wanted is to take an old vehicle and restore it to new.
Just don't make sense unless its supposed to be a sleeper type that rides and drives like new but looks like its supposed to be in a junkyard, and that really don't make sense. Lol!
Maybe patina is not technically the term I want to use. The thought comes up after I've spent mucho hours straightening, filling, sanding, cough..cough..coughing. After I've done all this, I just know that any paint shop worth their salt is not going to take it on without a lot more (costly) prep. I've been on this project for so long, I just don't think I want to take all the time and money that it will take for a "nice" paint finish. I want to be able to drive this beast before the kids take my driver's license away. I have no problem with a semi-ratrod approach; maybe more accurate than "patina paint job". I'd make everything mechanically first class, finish out the interior tastefully, and just shoot over the filler, guide coats, old primer, etc with a matte clear. I agree that shiny clear ain't the way to go. But, I think it would be kinda cool to just have a spotted car. A 340, 4 spd car that looks like monkey ****, that runs like a spotted-*** ape. Like it!
moparmat2000
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Prime it, with a primer /sealer , jamb it out, and drive it. Primer is finer.
Here, this was posted on FABO back in April 2020
as well as this
abodyjoe
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i never liked the patina that was cleared over. makes it look fake. and fake patina sucks.. its real or its crap. 
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chryslerfat
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Patina is not spots of shiny steel it is spots of rust coming through paint and primer. I never take a 2nd look at fake patina or shiny steel with clear over it.
Different strokes for different folks, if you like your vehicle painted by all means paint it. If you like the patina "look" then have at it. Consensus here is generally "hey it's your car and your green do what you feel". If you do it and don't like it change it.
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In your case, prime it, seal it, drive it. No fake clear coat nonsense
WTruo
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33IMP
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Id rather take it to "I'm Earl Schieb, and I'll paint any car for $99.95" that drive clear-coated rust around.
In my opinion, patina means you are too lazy or cheap to paint it right. My opinion only..... and unfortunately, i have LOTS of patina cars.
In my opinion, patina means you are too lazy or cheap to paint it right. My opinion only..... and unfortunately, i have LOTS of patina cars.
I think it depends on what it is. Older stuff like early 60s and back can look cool with the rat rod look. If I was going to "showcase" rust, I'd showcase it. No coating, no nuthin. It's not like it's gonna fall apart in your lifetime. IMO there are VERY FEW exceptions to something looking good that way. Especially with stuff about 64 and over. I will say I kinda like @A56's ride. It's kinda cool lookin. But it's an exception. My own Vixen is like that, but I'm not crazy about it. Soon as I can get it into epoxy primer, I'm gonna do it.
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Patina Before
Then correctly applied
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Then correctly applied
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Tinmannz
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50 years in a cow pasture buried up to its axles in cow **** otta do it.
The “drive it like it is” approach is perfectly alright with me. I’ve been scolded by more than a few people for even thinking of touching the original finish, or even the rust on my Roadrunner. I do think it’s an acquired taste tho, but in the end, if the car runs and you can drive and enjoy it, that’s the most important part of the hobby.
here’s a couple pics of my little red convertible. The sides look great, but the top of the cars finish is all faded....what should I do about it? Drive it, me thinks, until I can decide.
here’s a couple pics of my little red convertible. The sides look great, but the top of the cars finish is all faded....what should I do about it? Drive it, me thinks, until I can decide.
WTruo
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Amen brother!
midnight340
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Love it! Real is REAL. History and wear showing honest use and love is cool. Never fails for me, whenever I go to a show I'll walk right by anything with perfect paint. I either want to see the work of builder, as in, I want to see the work in progress or on-going, OR I want to see the original car with all it's time of use showing.
If neither of those is an option, I'll always look at a primered vehicle. I love primer, and have painted a car then realized it didn't appeal to me as much as when it was in primer. And have always had the experience of people approaching and appreciating vehicles in primer, after painting they might make a passing comment on how it lgood it looks, but it doesn't draw people in the same. Not that it's about showing it off, just an example of the difference.
Charliec, I'd vote for primer.
WTruo
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Exactly! Scratches, dents, chips ect ect are part of the cars character. My Buicks been painted and repaired in a few spots because the previous owner damaged the driver side door and front fender. But the rear fenders on both sides still have battle scars. My friends and family ask me if I plan on repainting it and I always reply with "no". I like it the way it is from the rust to the faded paint. The only thing I've done is clay bar the body and polish up the chrome.
Sometimes I feel like I’m a little whacky, because I love the scratches and dents, and the rust! They tell the tale of a life of service and enjoyment that these cars bring us. Pictured is a big scratch on the door of my Roadrunner. When I went back to the original owners house, he ran his hands over the paint like he was back in 1972 again. When he saw the scratch, he told me the story of how it got there....
In the early 70’s, things were pretty precarious at the big 3 plants if you didn’t drive the brand you built. Jerry worked at the Chevy spring plant, but drove a Mopar. They made all the non conformists park way out back, and the bullying and harassment got so out of hand they GM out out a memo to curtail the harassment. That night Jerry went out and the door was keyed, and it’s been there ever since.
How could I possibly repair or repaint a lifetime of stories like that?
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