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mbaird said
Steve you brought up a point I never thought about . There are so many guns in the U.S now ( and I have owned my share) that cops might be on the defense more now . I think training and recruiting has a lot to do with it as well . There are so many people out there that are armed to the teeth with automatics and tactical gear literally practicing combat that it becomes a subconcious reality to them . So when a cop confronts a suspect he is thinking there is a good chance the guy is armed.
Its a complicated issue...

Automatic weapons have been illegal for decades. :rolleyes: Buddy your facebook friends are not credible sources of information.

Cuda416 said
... Of the media vilifying cops over the last 12 years? I don't think it's unforeseen at all. I think it's quite obvious the effect of false reporting of various incidents over the years would and has done to the public image of cops in general. Never before we cop assassinations a regular thing. If that happened , it was fringe at best and almost always drug related. Not this crap where people have bene emboldened by the media and a lack of intervention.

Agreed, I just don't get it. I am not that old but I remember every second of 9/11 I remember where I was, I remember who told me about it, everything. I guess that was my generations JFK moment. I also remember how everyone I met, watched, or listened to had nothing but admiration and respect for the men and women of the Fire departments and Police Departments. Every one of those officers were heroes and nobody would have had the balls to say anything other than that then. I will also guarantee you that some of those men and women would never meet the 2021 holier than thou bullshit standards that the media and politicians try to hold them to. That didn't stop them from charging to their deaths to help their fellow man. They were rightly held as the heroes they were, are. So what changed? Very simple answer as far as I can see. Over a decade of a lying/biased media (as you said) and the toilet that is social media allowing people to huddle in their own little groups gulping down the some bogus information that just their little group of friends pukes up. No attempt to educate themselves, no attempt at critical thinking, no attempt of tracking down facts as long as their little circle agrees they just pat each other on the back and keep jerking. I truly believe that basic human intelligence is at an unbelievably historic low.

And Kimmer, I have bought stuff from you and gotten a lot of info from you. Nothing but respect but your smarter than this. Common buddy. :thumbsup: