competition plus shifter

Here is a pic of the 1969 Factory Hurst Shifter and Rods.
The second picture is the aftermarket Hurst Competition Plus Shifter and rods on the same transmission.
When you bought the aftermarket Hurst Comp Plus Shifter kit it, included the #2298 shifter mounting plate.
The #2298 shifter plate is the same one that was used on the 1964-65 A-body 4 speeds.

The 1968 and later factory installed Hurst Shifters used the #0090 mounting plate.

If you look close at the two assembles. You will notice that the aftermarket Hurst Comp Plus Shifter sits more upright,
but the the factory Hurst shifter is tilted forward.

The last picture shows the two mounting plates sitting on top of each other to illustrate their differences.
There are also differences in the shifter arms.
The lesson is that you cannot interchange the rods between the two.
I know, because I tried to do so and I ran into fitment problems.

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The lower shifter looks like an old Hurst Super Shifter to me. They used a special shift box that required you to push down to get it into reverse. It also had straight, large diameter, direct acting shift rods that were much beefier than the factory Competition Plus shifters. The mounting plate was different because the straight rods of the Super Shifter necessitated putting the shift box at a different angle that the bent rods of the original. This also put the original shift handle at the wrong angle, so the Super Shifter included a short, straight handle. Made the shift throws shorter, but higher effort.

I bought a Super Shifter for my 65 Barracuda in 1973, right after I got back from Nam. Mom didn't like the short handle, nor did she like the push-down-for-reverse (she did sometimes drive my car). But it sure eliminated the missed shifts I often got with the worn-out junkyard Super Bee shifter I had been running ever since my original shift box crapped out on me.

Couple-three decades later, can't remember what happened to my Super Shifter box, but had to replace it. The original Super Shifter was no longer available, so I got a Street Super Shifter. The new Street Super Shifter just used a regular Competition Plus box, mounted at the Super Shifter angle. No longer have to push down to get it into reverse. It still had the short stick and straight shift rods, but the rods were a lot punier than those of the original Super Shifter, so I kept my old shift rods. Many years later, I saw a shift handle hanging on the wall of Barnett Automotive in Atlanta that looked like it would fit correctly, so I bought it. Have no idea what car it was supposed to be for. It's flat instead of round like my original shift handle (which I still have), and the original ball won't fit as the threads are different, but it sits exactly where it should. I got a black ball off ebay that is a little shinier than the original, but is very close. Looks OEM at a quick glance. Have been running it for many years now.

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