At an emotional crossroad

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Woodward

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I like to share this with like minded people, and hope you don't mind.
I had a difficult relationship with my Father growing up, and always felt very insecure. He was very prominent within Chrysler and hot rod world, going back to the 50's. We didn't agree on much, except hot rods, even then... our likes were drastically different, he was a street rodder, and I loved drag racing. If you think they're the same, not in dad's eyes. I bought a 74 Duster in 78 (it was already called the Ruster) and a 340 to make a street/strip car... Dad took the plates, "No Drag car". I said I never planned to street race! Didn't matter.

Advance many years, we were never close. All changed when my mother suddenly passed from illness, and saw dad become very withdrawn and depressed. He'd been out of the car circles for many years, but i still saw the fire that drove him, when we reminisced. Karma is a funny thing, and can't always explain why things happen, when they do... Even though I wasn't looking really, I browse the car ad's.. who doesn't? The first car I saw.. 1974 Duster 340 that was mini-tubed... And it all came back.. so in jest i told dad... And was stunned when he said he was way to hard on me, and was sorry... The Duster was sold, but we talked it would be fun to work to work on cars again.... And for a single moment, that twinkle in his eyes was back..., I went looking for a car.

I found a 1972 Dart.. it was stripped, but solid-no rust, never been hit! When I got it home dad came over and said that would make a nice drag car! Dad... You just named "Our" next project! I can't now, Or ever see a man completely overwhelmed with joy, as my dad was that day! He said...it's got to have a HEMI! I almost was In tears.

Not too long after a few months of weekend's, dad got sick, and a year later he passed... I haven't touched the car since. Some may have seen our progress some time ago on the project forum.
I planned a 360/408 stroker, dad REALLY wanted to see a HEMI Dart. So, this brings us to today, what to do with the car...i have the car, but not the money for a HEMI, saving would take time, but to start with a block?, and go from there? Is it worth spending years? Buying (1) piston at a time? Or, sell the car with alot of emotional baggage sitting in the truck... Next to the fuel cell.

So this leaves me to ask for some... guidance if you will. I appreciate options from like minded people. All I ask if you wish to comment, please be respectful.

-Woodward
 
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Woodward -
So sorry for your loss.
I don't have any input to your decision on what to do with your '72 Dart.
I just want to suggest you keep all of the good memories of both your Mom and Dad close to your heart. Your parents will always be with you if you do.
Cherish the time you had with each of them. My dad passed when I was only 7 years old. I have a few memories of him from my early childhood and will always keep them close.
Regarding your Dart, I'm sure your Dad will be proud of whichever way you decide to go.
 
Being that both of my folks are 92/93, that day is coming, 2 of them more than likely. Safe to say more is behind the cart than in front of the horse for both of them. Death is just part of life, we all have to get through it. My advice to you is follow your heart. Wouldn’t your dad be smiling down on you with your completed project? And wouldn’t you want your children to carry on with the hot rod culture after your time comes? Also anyone who shoes a competitive drag car is said to have a hot rod.
 
Woodward -
So sorry for your loss.
I don't have any input to your decision on what to do with your '72 Dart.
I just want to suggest you keep all of the good memories of both your Mom and Dad close to your heart. Your parents will always be with you if you do.
Cherish the time you had with each of them. My dad passed when I was only 7 years old. I have a few memories of him from my early childhood and will always keep them close.
Regarding your Dart, I'm sure your Dad will be proud of whichever way you decide to go.
Being that both of my folks are 92/93, that day is coming, 2 of them more than likely. Safe to say more is behind the cart than in front of the horse for both of them. Death is just part of life, we all have to get through it. My advice to you is follow your heart. Wouldn’t your dad be smiling down on you with your completed project? And wouldn’t you want your children to carry on with the hot rod culture after your time comes? Also anyone who shoes a competitive drag car is said to have a hot rod.
 
lol... Thanks for the reply!
Dad would disagree... If the car you built doesn't have at least parts from 6 different makes... It's not a Hot Rod.
 
My step-father came into my life when I was 8 & passed when I was 27 (he was young (52) with a $hit ton of complications from Type-2 Diabetes). We had our differences, as most fathers/sons do, but there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about him. He was a Chevy guy, so there was always the constant back and forth ribbing GM vs. Mopar. I'm sure my dad would be proud to know that he had a major influence on my life's accomplishments (career, wife, kids, home, etc...).

No matter what you decide to do, I'm sure he's happy/proud of you. Build it your way in honor/memory of your dad!
 
Thanks!
I really don't understand why the distain for mopars... Guys would drop a 305/turbo 350 combo in a model A, and no one would bat an eye lash. I worked for GM for 18 years, i had a fox body 351w and no issues.. I took a Cordoba.. yes a Cordoba... To work.. it got keyed on both sides!
 
Woodward -
So sorry for your loss.
I don't have any input to your decision on what to do with your '72 Dart.
I just want to suggest you keep all of the good memories of both your Mom and Dad close to your heart. Your parents will always be with you if you do.
Cherish the time you had with each of them. My dad passed when I was only 7 years old. I have a few memories of him from my early childhood and will always keep them close.
Regarding your Dart, I'm sure your Dad will be proud of whichever way you decide to go.
 
Thanks for the kind words! It's t
Woodward -
So sorry for your loss.
I don't have any input to your decision on what to do with your '72 Dart.
I just want to suggest you keep all of the good memories of both your Mom and Dad close to your heart. Your parents will always be with you if you do.
Cherish the time you had with each of them. My dad passed when I was only 7 years old. I have a few memories of him from my early childhood and will always keep them close.
Regarding your Dart, I'm sure your Dad will be proud of whichever way you decide to go.

Thanks for the kind words!
It's the covid shut down, and watching alot of ROADKILL, has me thinking about the dart alot..
They have me motivated, but brings me back that my dad would have loved to feel a gen2 again.
But it's the cost. You know anyone who has collected one piston at time?
 
Thanks for the kind words! It's t


Thanks for the kind words!
It's the covid shut down, and watching alot of ROADKILL, has me thinking about the dart alot..
They have me motivated, but brings me back that my dad would have loved to feel a gen2 again.
But it's the cost. You know anyone who has collected one piston at time?

I have 5 318’s, 2 340’s, 2 360’s, a 350 shivvey, 270 and 302 Jimmy’s all patiently waiting for me. One 340 has been waiting for 40 years.
 
Woodward, I'm sorry for your loss. I lost my dad when I was 12. He was just starting to show me around cars. He was a " Blue Oval " guy. I got bit by the "Mopar vampire" in my late teens. Speaking of " Hemi's ", I'm slowly gathering parts for a 1st Gen 331 hemi. So I guess you could say I'm collecting one piston at a time. And I think my dad would have liked my " Duster " not too many don't ( just the BowTie crowd). So go with whatever makes you feel good with your Dart. Don.
 
Wow, that's a nice collection lol, and jealous you have the space. Mines inside and not in the way, im just feeling I should be doing something with it, and I'm getting the comments of when r u going to finish it... But they don't know the back story.
 
Woodward, I'm sorry for your loss. I lost my dad when I was 12. He was just starting to show me around cars. He was a " Blue Oval " guy. I got bit by the "Mopar vampire" in my late teens. Speaking of " Hemi's ", I'm slowly gathering parts for a 1st Gen 331 hemi. So I guess you could say I'm collecting one piston at a time. And I think my dad would have liked my " Duster " not too many don't ( just the BowTie crowd). So go with whatever makes you feel good with your Dart. Don.
Thanks!
Just guess some of the pressure to do move along is self inflicted.
 
I have nothing to say in these things. My Dad and I were confrontational for most of my growing up. He never really taught me a damn thing. He could tell me to do something and then yell when I screwed up. He never shared my "cars" although later in life he bought Gramps 54 Jag and he and Mom got some enjoyment. He was a hard worker, never very rich, and honest as they come. In later years, he and I were "better." But never "close." Not really. I have a lot of respect for the way he worked and didn't squander, rather, took care of the family for food, warmth, housing.

I feel for ya. It is tough.
 
You had good times with your dad after reconciliation and that is great. You have the car and opportunity to build it. No right or wrong here just build the car you can afford and drive it. Your dad will get it.
 
my humble opinion.... Build it best you can, enjoy it and add to it as you get the parts/resources.
I have a story that kept me of the road for 20 years. You wont believe the feeling you get driving something you built yourself.
Your Dad would be proud !!
 
Woodward, it's telling that you and your father were able to reconcile. That ses alot about both of you. It's great you planned a build with him. Regardless of what engine you build it's the memory of the project. You should build it within your budget and enjoy every minute of it! There's some great builds on this site you could reference. 65'
 
Woodward, you're going to carry the great memories of the last year with your dad for the rest of your life.

I think you'll be kicking yourself if you sold your car now. I'm like the others. Build a budget build and get it running on the road. Then every time you drive it, your dad will be riding along.
 
Woody, DO NOT sell the car. You'll regret it for the rest of your days.
In regards to the engine, you have answered your own question. If you can't swing it financially, then you gotta look at another option. You will waste years collecting "one piston at a time". If you go with an LA motor and get her on the road, you'll have those years sitting in the driver's seat. Not staring at the car in your garage, desperately wishing it was finished. Build it!
 
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I agree whole heartedly. When you said you seen his eyes light up, it had nothing to do with a Hemi but I'm sure with the hope of getting to spend the time together. Build that dart with your love for your Father, you will never be sorry. Keep us informed with your special Dart.
 
Sometimes parents can teach in different ways. My parents teach me in the this is not the way to parent method..
I tried to learn from how wrong they did things and do things better with my kids... I was nowhere in the ballpark perfect, but still much closer to my son now than my parents are with me especially where my dad is concerned...
My dad is living and going to die with his choices.. he does make attempts to be closer but in all reality the fact is too many years have went by and we're not...
I'm spending my time building memories with my son and hopefully one day with my grandchildren as well. With that said my suggestion would be to grab one of your kids that's interested in some of this stuff and start making new memories...
 
The latest incanations of the hemis (the 5.7, 6.1) would work
It would still technically be a hemi, though I'm sure it is not what your dad had in mind

But they are a lot easier on the wallet then a real hemi
 
I never had anyone to teach me about cars. I had to learn it all on my own. My dad died when I was 13. You had precious time with your dad. I always tell my friends to cherish the time the have with their parent’s. Do the best u can with what u have. Your dad will be very proud of you. He will be smiling while looking down at your vision and accomplishments. You won’t disappoint him only impress him. Sorry for you loss. Kim
 
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