My stock stroke mild 360 build ;)

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View attachment 1715681074 View attachment 1715681075 View attachment 1715681076 View attachment 1715681077 Got the intake back. It was machined .080” off each side. Using the Felpro 1213S-3 which are .065” thick. Seemed to work okay, bolted on fine...

These chinese stamped steel covers with my poser stickers, fit like ****, probably won’t use them. Would like a polished set of MP’s if I can find ‘em.

Holley street demon 750, with a 1” wood spacer. I put one of those wood spacers on my other engine and it really keeps the manifold heat from the carburetor. I got the distributor from member TrailBeast who also installed the FBO plate for me. Thanks.

Maybe I can do the break in, in a couple weeks. Gotta finish installing the front Dana 60. Other than that, I think I’m ready.

...wont be surprised if this POS blows up on me or something happens. I’m almost expecting it, from the way this build has been going. Lots of little nuisances I went through on this damn thing.

this will be my 4th break-in under my belt. Lol
Nice looking build. Also, I think you’ll really like that carb. Did you get the tuning kit for it? The only real issue I had with the carb are the little e-clips used for the various linkage. When tuning I had a tendency to lose one or one ended up getting bent so I bought a bunch of extras. They are fiddly and a source of aggravation, about the only negative I found. Happy break-in!:thumbsup:
 
They are fiddly and a source of aggravation,
I bought a tool off the tool-truck, that takes care of that lil nuisance,lol. It's a hooked wire in a tube with a spring-loaded plunger on the other end. I depress the plunger, hook the clip, then release the plunger, thus locking them together. After that, the clips go where the tool goes; they are sorta married,lol.
 
Well. Got it running today. The cam didn’t go flat. Runs ok. Started right up though. Brought it up to 2500-3000 rpm.
Have a huge oil leak.

 
What’s up with that stupid countdown? Did you guys see that? Or only me?

edit: now its not there...hmm.. anyways, @AJ/FormS @TT5.9mag @RustyRatRod

heres another minute of runtime. rear main leaks pretty bad. oil leaks from the top right intake manifold corner. I didnt have the PCV hooked up. I think it built up pressure and pushed the seal out. does that happen?? is that a thing?

at the end, i hooked it up, didnt leak nearly as bad, leak almost stopped, now it just seeps. i think the damage is done and i gotta put a new seal, and pull the manifold and reseal that one up too.

 
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I didn't see the countdown.

I'm sure it feels good to have it running. Any idea where the oil leak is coming from?
Rear main seal.

on a side note, the frickin thing just started right the hell up. i listened to @AJ/FormS and put it right at 15 initial, smashed the vcan to the firewall and brought it back to me until the next reluctor tooth lined up with the pickup, put my wires on and off she went. dont know why i was trippin.
 
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Ok here’s one at idle. The cam is too mild. I don’t like it. I gotta idle down some more, but this is at 1,000 rpm. little pop here and there, ill adjust that. running out of time...or...oil...LOL

I have 273 rockers I got rebuilt from Rocker Arms Unlimited. I’m going with a solid flat tappet. If I gotta pull this damn motor apart to fix these leaks, that’s what I’m doing. I like a pissed off sound, this one is a nice little kitty just purrs. Lol

 
Oil filter plate seal on good and tight?
 
Ok here’s one at idle. The cam is too mild. I don’t like it. I gotta idle down some more, but this is at 1,000 rpm. little pop here and there, ill adjust that. running out of time...or...oil...LOL
Before you start swapping cams, get the PCV hooked up!, and get the thing idling right. You cannot tell much with a high idle. And
Depending on your EFFECTIVE gearing; pushing the powerband up, in a streeter, is rarely a good idea, especially in a heavy vehicle.
Here are some tips;
>For every bigger cam size, (about 7 degrees) from the same manufacturer, and in the same cam style, the powerpeak goes up about 200 rpm, AND, about half that drops off the bottomend, and so, without an increase in cylinder pressure, the bottom end goes weaker and weaker.
So, IMO, I would drive the beast a few weeks and work on the tune, before you condemn the cam.
>The sound you want is a byproduct of crappy cylinder filling at low rpm, due to the late-closing intakes, and partly from the overlap cycle. One thousand rpm is way too high even for the 292/292/108 cam.... which needs a chitload of compression to work right, and drinks gas pretty bad.
>If you get a bog when gassing it in gear, at low-rpm; you will have to tighten up your secondary air door
> to make it idle slow, you will have to retard the IdleTiming to 14* or less; don't be afraid of go there, cuz it will tend to fix your transfer slot exposure. The closer you get to synchronizing the transfers to the mixture screw AFR, with adequate Bypass-Air, the more retarded you will be able to run it, which will slow it down some more. By 600/650 you will be hearing the cam.
But make no mistake; if your Transfer-slot sync is off, the slow-idle will create a tip-in hesitation. This is NOT the timing causing that! That hesitation is 100% a fueling issue.
To compensate for the lack of timing at idle, you will need a 2-stage timing curve. You start with one long-loop advance spring, that allows the soft second spring to barely keep the idle advance from jumping around. I worked my curve to come in fast and hard to 28*@ 2800, and then it slows right down when it hits the end of the long-looper. Then, it takes to about 3400 to bring in the last several degrees. This has worked well for all three of my cams, in my Manual-trans 68 Barracuda. (223@.050, 230@.050, and the 292Mopar)
> you will know that you have too much Idle-Timing, by how hard it is to drive it at low rpm.
>The truth is that in neutral, your engine will be most smooth and most happy with a ton of timing. Try it. Just keep giving it timing, a little at a time, until the rpm no longer increases with more timing. Then reduce the idle-timing some 6*, and back the idle-rpm up to say 700, and then start adding timing again, until the rpm plateaus. Now read the balancer. Don't be surprised to see numbers in the high 20s to mid 30s, or more. That is what she wants in neutral, and probably the starting point for cruising on. Cruising 2400 to 2800 in steady state she may want 50 or more degrees!
> but you cannot drive it with that much Idle-Timing; as it is almost a sure thing that it will detonate on acceleration, AND, the power pulses will be way too strong in first gear at lowrpm, AND, it will wreak havoc with your Transfer-slot sync. So put it back to 14* or less at 700rpm.
> I suggest to put 20* into the centrifugal advance, to get you 34* of PowerTiming with 14* of Idle-Timing.This should be pretty detonation safe. Work the tune from there, and after you get the idle/midrange worked out, later you might try a few more degrees of PowerTiming. Try not to get ahead of yourself.
> your open-header tune will be slightly different than after the exhaust system goes on, so keep that in mind.
> if your combo is jumpy on the throttle at low rpm, the easiest/fastest way to get rid of that is to retard the timing, at whatever rpm it is happening at; and the easiest way to do that is to just retard the idle timing
> if your exhaust burns your eyes, your idle is rich, and your engine needs some more Idle-Air bypass. but prove the idle is rich first. I do this by slowly adding air to the PCV circuit. If the engine likes it, it is/was rich. Some guys slowly cover the airhorn with a shoprag; if the rpm goes up, it is/was lean.
> to get bypass air, you can crack the secondaries a bit, but I have never had any success with that. The engine wants that air to have fuel in it so unless you can figure out how to get that secondary bypass air to have fuel in it, I wouldn't bother. Ideally the bypass air wants to come in thru the PCV circuit, so it can mix with the transfer/idle fuel, before zipping down the runners. A second alternative is thru the primary throttle blades. But be forewarned, increasing idle air will increase idle speed, which, if you back off the speed screw, will readjust your transfer sync. So instead, I use Idle-Timing to adjust my idle-Speed, and that takes us back to my recommendation of 14* max IdleTiming.
> Your ideal transfer slot exposure may be a lil taller than wide, just enough to be noticeable.
 
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Before you start swapping cams, get the PCV hooked up!, and get the thing idling right. You cannot tell much with a high idle. And
Depending on your EFFECTIVE gearing; pushing the powerband up, in a streeter, is rarely a good idea, especially in a heavy vehicle.
Here are some tips;
>For every bigger cam size, (about 7 degrees) from the same manufacturer, and in the same cam style, the powerpeak goes up about 200 rpm, AND, about half that drops off the bottomend, and so, without an increase in cylinder pressure, the bottom end goes weaker and weaker.
So, IMO, I would drive the beast a few weeks and work on the tune, before you condemn the cam.
>The sound you want is a byproduct of crappy cylinder filling at low rpm, due to the late-closing intakes, and partly from the overlap cycle. One thousand rpm is way too high even for the 292/292/108 cam.... which needs a chitload of compression to work right, and drinks gas pretty bad.
>If you get a bog when gassing it in gear, at low-rpm; you will have to tighten up your secondary air door
> to make it idle slow, you will have to retard the IdleTiming to 14* or less; don't be afraid of go there, cuz it will tend to fix your transfer slot exposure. The closer you get to synchronizing the transfers to the mixture screw AFR, with adequate Bypass-Air, the more retarded you will be able to run it, which will slow it down some more. By 600/650 you will be hearing the cam.
But make no mistake; if your Transfer-slot sync is off, the slow-idle will create a tip-in hesitation. This is NOT the timing causing that! That hesitation is 100% a fueling issue.
To compensate for the lack of timing at idle, you will need a 2-stage timing curve. You start with one long-loop advance spring, that allows the soft second spring to barely keep the idle advance from jumping around. I worked my curve to come in fast and hard to 28*@ 2800, and then it slows right down when it hits the end of the long-looper. Then, it takes to about 3400 to bring in the last several degrees. This has worked well for all three of my cams, in my Manual-trans 68 Barracuda. (223@.050, 230@.050, and the 292Mopar)
> you will know that you have too much Idle-Timing, by how hard it is to drive it at low rpm.
>The truth is that in neutral, your engine will be most smooth and most happy with a ton of timing. Try it. Just keep giving it timing, a little at a time, until the rpm no longer increases with more timing. Then reduce the idle-timing some 6*, and back the idle-rpm up to say 700, and then start adding timing again, until the rpm plateaus. Now read the balancer. Don't be surprised to see numbers in the high 20s to mid 30s, or more. That is what she wants in neutral, and probably the starting point for cruising on. Cruising 2400 to 2800 in steady state she may want 50 or more degrees!
> but you cannot drive it with that much Idle-Timing; as it is almost a sure thing that it will detonate on acceleration, AND, the power pulses will be way too strong in first gear at lowrpm, AND, it will wreak havoc with your Transfer-slot sync. So put it back to 14* or less at 700rpm.
> I suggest to put 20* into the centrifugal advance, to get you 34* of PowerTiming with 14* of Idle-Timing.This should be pretty detonation safe. Work the tune from there, and after you get the idle/midrange worked out, later you might try a few more degrees of PowerTiming. Try not to get ahead of yourself.
> your open-header tune will be slightly different than after the exhaust system goes on, so keep that in mind.
> if your combo is jumpy on the throttle at low rpm, the easiest/fastest way to get rid of that is to retard the timing, at whatever rpm it is happening at; and the easiest way to do that is to just retard the idle timing
> if your exhaust burns your eyes, your idle is rich, and your engine needs some more Idle-Air bypass. but prove the idle is rich first. I do this by slowly adding air to the PCV circuit. If the engine likes it, it is/was rich. Some guys slowly cover the airhorn with a shoprag; if the rpm goes up, it is/was lean.
> to get bypass air, you can crack the secondaries a bit, but I have never had any success with that. The engine wants that air to have fuel in it so unless you can figure out how to get that secondary bypass air to have fuel in it, I wouldn't bother. Ideally the bypass air wants to come in thru the PCV circuit, so it can mix with the transfer/idle fuel, before zipping down the runners. A second alternative is thru the primary throttle blades. But be forewarned, increasing idle air will increase idle speed, which, if you back off the speed screw, will readjust your transfer sync. So instead, I use Idle-Timing to adjust my idle-Speed, and that takes us back to my recommendation of 14* max IdleTiming.
> Your ideal transfer slot exposure may be a lil taller than wide, just enough to be noticeable.
Wow. Thank you for that! I got some work to do.
 
ok I admit it;
a 210 cam on a 110 LSA won't have hardly any idle lope. But as I said; lope is a byproduct of very low efficiency. With your super-low granny first gear, I suppose you could install a lumpier cam, but when you get to second gear, it will only hurt your low to midrange performance. And so, your combo, without a torque-multiplying fluid coupling cannot deal with a low rpm power issue, on account of the tires are married to the crank and whatever rpm it is at. And I guarantee you, that most of the time, you will NOT be at 5000rpm,lol.
if you have these ratios;
6.69-3.34-1.79-1.00 splits of .50-.54-.56
those splits are gonna hurt.
The combination of 4.10s and 33s, is the equivalent of 3.35s with 27" tires. That granny gear will get you off the line ok, and when you hit 3.34 second gear, your engine will still be on fire. But the big deal is that 1.79 Third gear. 5000 rpm in 3.34Second will get you 36mph and when you shift into 1.79 third gear, the Rs will fall to 2700, so yur engine better have some down-low torque to pull that until you get her wound up some. The 210 cam fits the bill. A 230 is way too much. A 220 might work, but the cylinder pressure will drop too far, IMO; so, you will get more power at higher rpm alrightee, but without more compression you will lose very significant torque down low, necessitating deeper differential gears. 210 should be just about right.
In second gear your slowest speed with that transmission is gonna be about 900rpm=6.5mph, and if you need to get back on the throttle from there, your cam better be there for you, and the tune, spot on.
IMO, that trans is really a wide-ratio 3+1 cuz once you get out of first, you won't be getting back into it until stopped or near stopped. Ima guessing you may not even need grannygear with that engine. And so with just three regularly used gears, the splits have to be wide, making it a low-rpm transmission. And the 210cam is about as good as it gets.
Having said all that, My engine is or has been very similar to yours and I can tell you that with the right valve gear, it will rev to extreme rpm with those heads, before the power falls off, So just because the powerpeak might be at 4600, doesn't mean you have to shift there or even anywhere near there, especially with those trans ratios.
As for me, I would NOT shift it at WOT, until the power going out (on the shift) is the same as the power coming in, (in the next gear); whether that be 5000/5500 or whatever.
That 210@050 is a powerhouse low to mid-rpm cam, just what your combo needs. I highly recommend that you at least give it a chance, whatever the idle lumpiness might not be, lol. The next bigger cam will drop your pressure into iron-head territory, and you lose the alloy advantage.
 
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It's all about how it runs.

Drive and then decide.

Sound image is overrated.

Might be a stump puller.


Point 3 is 100% FACT. I can say it is super overrated. Got a guy Im doing an engine for right now who cares about nothing but what it idles like. I picked a cam to make power, and drive nice. He had to give up some of that stupid idle. He’s not happy now, but by the end of the summer he will be.
 
Alright! I’ll run it!

I have to fix my leak issue. By not hooking up my PCV the first 5 minutes or so, is that what potentially caused my leak?

Rear main seal, and top right side corner of manifold
 
is that what potentially caused my leak?
Key word potentially, but yes, if the crankcase was otherwise sealed.
It shouldda blown the dipstick out, which is the weakest link. Rear main seal may have become distorted and leaked, but if still in place, may recover.
The intake leak would probably have leaked anyway.
At this point, I would pressurize the CC with no more than regulated 3psi, and find all the leak-points. Three psi on a two inch camplug is 9.4 pounds of force, probably not enough to blow the rear cam-plug out, at least mine have always stayed in.... your results may vary......
 
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Alright! I’ll run it!

I have to fix my leak issue. By not hooking up my PCV the first 5 minutes or so, is that what potentially caused my leak?

Rear main seal, and top right side corner of manifold
At 20 seconds into the video from post 57 I think I can see a push-in style breather in the right side valve cover. If so, there is no way your pcv caused any oil leaks by not being connected, so don’t worry about that. Just fix the leaks and move on. It happens.
Cool to see it running. Looks good too.
 
Maybe the seal was a dry install and it burned.

Maybe it was not offset and dabbed with rtv...

Maybe one half was backwards, the cap typically... Ive seen that before a time or two.

Maybe...its not a rear main and it's the rear pan seal over the cap. They need shaved or they can .. bunch up/buldge.. and then just slow drip and leave about a thin 4" circle of pil at every parking spot.

I don't really buy into the lack of a pcv.

I doubt that motor was air tight.
 
I think it sounds good for a truck engine. And I wouldn’t care what it sounded like as long as it had the torque I need to turn those tires. @MOPAROFFICIAL is right on with the oil leak diagnosis. Sometimes they seal up a little better once the rings are seated and the pcv is pulling on the crankcase.
 
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Yea I actually have 35” super swamper mud boggers with 4.10 gears
 
Those 35’s sucked. I put the 33’s back on.

I wasn’t too enthusiastic with the Holley Street Demon, I tried out a 3310 a friend lent me. What a difference, crisp throttle response, absolutely no hesitation or bog anywhere, great power. Then a fellow member encouraged me to fix what I got. :)

So after some trial and error I got that Demon running pretty good. Tightened up the secondary air flap until the stumble/ hesitation went away, the choke wasn’t working since new, I took it apart and fixed the linkage, richened it up with a jet change.

There’s still a backfire on deceleration, while engine braking going downhill... Can that
be due to the straight through exhaust? I have a knockoff bullet style muffler. I’ve read they are known to do that? I’ll be trying a chambered muffler this weekend.

Oh, I did a compression test, warm engine, all plugs removed, throttle open, I got 250 psi + or - a couple psi on all cylinders.

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250 psi! I hope that’s a typo. Or you poured oil in the cylinders.
 
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