Our fellow FABO member's 69 Cuda A57 is featured on GYC tonight 4-6-21

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the blue A57 383 4 speed "Cuda" owned by one our our FABO members is being finished up on Grave Yard Carz Season 13 Episode 4 tonight.

this car has been at GYC for probably 5 years. GYC has done one or two Dusters but i believe this Cuda 383 is the first A-body Barracuda they have done.

the car looks just BEAUTIFUL in the original B5 "Blue Fire Metallic." it was be great to see this car done and delivered to the owner.

i'm hoping our FABO member and owner of this great car gives us some insight on the GYC's experience and what he thinks of his car.
 
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement
 
dart4forte said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement
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that's an interesting idea. i have never found an article anywhere that talks about how much it costs to get Worman to do a car. i'm sure it varies by the condition of the car and how much work will be required, however, i think i might have read somewhere that most of his restoration work is $100k or more.
 
Grave Yard Carz just keeps getting better and better. tonight's episode had Mark going over a lot of fender tag build codes and sharing a lot of information about build practices between the L.A. Chrysler plant and the Hamtramick plant. i love this show.
 
jimharvard said:
that's an interesting idea. i have never found an article anywhere that talks about how much it costs to get Worman to do a car. i'm sure it varies by the condition of the car and how much work will be required, however, i think i might have read somewhere that most of his restoration work is $100k or more.
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I know person with a original Hemi conv car that had a car done and wished he had someone else restore it for same or less money.

Owner got a little carried away with the being on TV deal.

I saw the car. Had some basic errors. It was a nice resto. Just better values out there to have worked done.
 
autoxcuda said:
I know person with a original Hemi conv car that had a car done and wished he had someone else restore it for same or less money.

Owner got a little carried away with the being on TV deal.

I saw the car. Had some basic errors. It was a nice resto. Just better values out there to have worked done.
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i have heard others say that there are other mopar resto shops. how do you find other shops that specialize in mopars? i'm sure the West Coast has a number of specialty shops for mopars but i don't know of any on the East Coast or South. i live in Pittsburgh, PA and have a collection of 68-69 Barracudas. i would love to find a shop that i could trust my cars with. i recently was going to take the rare big-block K-member that's going on my 69 M-Code Cuda to a shop to have it powder-coated flat black. but i changed my mind at the last minute and made up an excuse not to take it to the guy because i was having nightmares about the guy losing the part or selling it or coming up with some "i don't know what happened to it" excuse after he found out what the part was worth.

if you know of a good mopar restoration shop within driving distance of Pittsburgh, please let me know.
 
Cool stuff, Jim! Thanks for sharing!
 
jimharvard said:
i have heard others say that there are other mopar resto shops. how do you find other shops that specialize in mopars? i'm sure the West Coast has a number of specialty shops for mopars but i don't know of any on the East Coast or South. i live in Pittsburgh, PA and have a collection of 68-69 Barracudas. i would love to find a shop that i could trust my cars with. i recently was going to take the rare big-block K-member that's going on my 69 M-Code Cuda to a shop to have it powder-coated flat black. but i changed my mind at the last minute and made up an excuse not to take it to the guy because i was having nightmares about the guy losing the part or selling it or coming up with some "i don't know what happened to it" excuse after he found out what the part was worth.

if you know of a good mopar restoration shop within driving distance of Pittsburgh, please let me know.
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most people on the west coast say they all all back east.

there’s lots of them. But expecting one to be within a 2 hour drive of your house is little too much to ask for.

do you read Mopars Collectors Guide? Do you go to Carlisle and ask people with cars done to your level of expectations where they get their cars done?

I would look to the B and E-body car that tend to have resto’s that closer fit your expectations for an M-code car. I know there are some nuances for A-bodies. But same rules mostly apply. Also the resto shops do a lot less A-bodies, so it’s harder to find the past ones they did. It doesn’t mean they haven’t done one.

Kohr Kustoms: Kohr's Kustoms

Mike Mancini’s: American Muscle Car Restorations, Inc. – Performing world class restorations for the most discriminating of collectors and connoisseurs.

Troy Angelly: https://www.tarestorations.com/

Hodge: Hodge Restorations – MOPAR Restorations

Finer Details: The Finer Details - World Class Muscle Car Restorations

There’s a lot more: those are just some that advertise well and owners get cars in magazines.
 
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1969cuda said:
Who is this ECS company Mark is referring to?
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that’s Dave Walden’s company. ECS Automotive Concepts

Remember Dave from a Moparts? He passed a couple years ago. He had the OE blue 70 Valiant, 70 white/blue challenger and the 4 door cuda...

Very knowledgeable and opinionated online. Met him at a SEMA show and was nice and pleasant.

I think a guy named Steve Bean did a lot of his resto work out of Missouri. But can’t find a link to his business.
 
jimharvard said:
i have heard others say that there are other mopar resto shops. how do you find other shops that specialize in mopars? i'm sure the West Coast has a number of specialty shops for mopars but i don't know of any on the East Coast or South. i live in Pittsburgh, PA and have a collection of 68-69 Barracudas. i would love to find a shop that i could trust my cars with. i recently was going to take the rare big-block K-member that's going on my 69 M-Code Cuda to a shop to have it powder-coated flat black. but i changed my mind at the last minute and made up an excuse not to take it to the guy because i was having nightmares about the guy losing the part or selling it or coming up with some "i don't know what happened to it" excuse after he found out what the part was worth.

if you know of a good mopar restoration shop within driving distance of Pittsburgh, please let me know.
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Dave Ferro at Totally Auto outside Philadelphia.
 
jimharvard said:
i recently was going to take the rare big-block K-member that's going on my 69 M-Code Cuda to a shop to have it powder-coated flat black. but i changed my mind at the last minute and made up an excuse not to take it to the guy because i was having nightmares about the guy losing the part or selling it or coming up with some "i don't know what happened to it" excuse after he found out what the part was worth.
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To get your K Frame powdercoated, Look no farther than Phoenix Specialty Coatings owned and operated by our own Leanna @CudaChick1968
 
Saw the episode where they painted that car last night.

They also put the wing on a Daytona.

I noticed that there was paint missing on the support "washers".

I've seen other episodes where things had scuffed paint and small dents that looked like it would be a bear to retouch them because of the proximity of other parts in different colors and little room to work.
 
As stated, there was probably a lengthy NDA that the owner had to agree to & sign. Worman knows all about the various Mopar sights & doesn't want to get slimed if there is any hiccups that might tarnish his image as a self proclaimed guru. If you have noticed all of the B & E body cars that have been worked are never discussed on FEBO or FBBO.
 
I talked to Mark a few times. He is actually cheaper than you think. He is totally different than the show. I actually help him out on that Cuda. Real nice guy.
 
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I don't think GYC and Worman can be totally validated until one of their cars wins an O.E. GOLD certification. They look like they do "nice" work but cameras hide a lot. I still enjoy the show I just take it as another "reality" show that happens to feature Mopars. I could do without the drama and Worman's stupid antics. Show more cars and the processes to restore them LESS B.S.
 
My buddy had his 73 Cuda 340 4 gear car done at a place that does high end restorations. He also thought he knows everything. Just the body and paint was over $60,000.00. My buddy had new interior and chrome, refurbished dash and many other things. By the time the body guy had the power train, interior, wheels and tires and other stuff installed he was close to $85,000.00. Not impressed at all. There is a list of 20 or so things that need to be redone. This guy did a 70 Hemi Road Runner convertible ( 1 of 4 that were ever built ). (Now only 3 as 1 was burned and crushed many years ago ) This car debuted in the Chicago Auto Show b4 and after the resto. All factory original metal was used for the resto. $200,000.00 resto. So u know the work he can do. The lesser cars don’t seem to get the love. There is a car in California claimed to be 1 of the 4 originals but it is a fake. Kim
 
Fantom Works regularly, but not always discussed pricing.

I heard everything from 30K to almost 100K.
 
No matter how many checks you write You'll never truly appreciate an old car till you build it yourself. I'm no expert but I've been at it over 40 years and there's only a few things I pay a professional to do. When someone looks at my car and says "Nice car man" I really appreciate the compliment because I built it.
 
RON REAGLE said:
No matter how many checks you write You'll never truly appreciate an old car till you build it yourself. I'm no expert but I've been at it over 40 years and there's only a few things I pay a professional to do. When someone looks at my car and says "Nice car man" I really appreciate the compliment because I built it.
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I agree. I’m building my 65 Dart panel wagon conversion in a single car garage. The only work I sent out was the A500 transmission, machine work on the 273, and the chrome work.
 
jimharvard said:
i have heard others say that there are other mopar resto shops. how do you find other shops that specialize in mopars? i'm sure the West Coast has a number of specialty shops for mopars but i don't know of any on the East Coast or South. i live in Pittsburgh, PA and have a collection of 68-69 Barracudas. i would love to find a shop that i could trust my cars with. i recently was going to take the rare big-block K-member that's going on my 69 M-Code Cuda to a shop to have it powder-coated flat black. but i changed my mind at the last minute and made up an excuse not to take it to the guy because i was having nightmares about the guy losing the part or selling it or coming up with some "i don't know what happened to it" excuse after he found out what the part was worth.

if you know of a good mopar restoration shop within driving distance of Pittsburgh, please let me know.
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I would look for owners with B and E-body restorations. Those cars tend to have resto’s that closer fit your expectations for an M-code car. I know there are some nuances for A-bodies. But same rules mostly apply.

Also the resto shops do a lot less A-bodies, so it’s harder to find the past ones they did. Especially in the past. It doesn’t mean they haven’t done one. It’s just harder to find the past ones they did.
 
Just finished watching the episode.

Anyone notice the stop screw on the throttle linkage towards the end of the episode start to unscrew itsself? I think someone forgot to tighten the lok nut!
 
He's a knowledgeable guy, numbers wise, but he doesn't know A bodies. He's in it for the money with B and E bodies. I find him and Tony a bit snarkey, although I still watch when I can.
 
70dart340 said:
He's a knowledgeable guy, numbers wise, but he doesn't know A bodies. He's in it for the money with B and E bodies. I find him and Tony a bit snarkey, although I still watch when I can.
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most of his tech and numbers are spoon fed from Tony D’Agostino.
 
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