LEDG vs Halogen Incandescent headlights

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I have only limited experience with LEDs, and it's gonna stay that way.
IMO
they are retina burners to look at,
but have lousy penetration,
and even less ability to shine into a hole.
IMO
they make lousy worklights, lousy flashlights, and lousy lights in my home. I am slowly, as they burn out, converting my 40 or so, GU-10 potlights in my house back to halogen.
When I encounter LED headlights coming at me at night, I cringe. At age 68, my eyes are becoming slower to adjust, and so I am forced to drive by looking at the shoulder, and occasionally also have to slow down as the retina-burner passes by. This has been on-going for about 10 or so years, when they first became available.
There is no way I would put that on some other old-guy, so will never install LEDS on my car, cuz not every old-guy can drive by referencing the shoulder.
Furthermore, as regards LED tail-lights, like I said, LEDs have no penetration power. So in a snowstorm, it has happened to me that I have caught up to a vehicle with LEDS and nearly smashed into it. Whereas the non-LED cars gave more warning. My guess was that he was crawling along because his headlights also had no penetration power. I don't know that because I don't have and never will have LEDS.
Halogen headlights do what they are supposed to, without the retina-burning effect to oncoming vehicles. If there was only one thing in this world I could hate, it would be LED automotive lighting.
And that's my opinion.
 
There seems to be a trend the last 5 or so years to see who has the "awesomest" headlights, or at least who has the most LED lightbars. For the Dart I used Nighthawks at the recommendation of @slantsixdan. About the best stock replacements out there. Coupled with one of @Crackedback relay kits, its hard to beat.
Among the 17 to 25 crowd, it is amazing how many of these kids toss the headlights Honda and Toyota spent millions and millions perfecting. What does Honda Know? They got themselves the coolest blue tint headlights Ebay had to offer. Fuzzy, unfocused, horrible color temp, etc. About as useful as the shiny anodized tow ring under their rear bumper. More than one person has regretted the Ebay LED "100% guarenteed fit" conversion. The Nighthawks work great, I never drove 80 mph at night, so I didnt need to see half a mile away.
 
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I have only limited experience with LEDs, and it's gonna stay that way.
IMO
they are retina burners to look at,
but have lousy penetration,
and even less ability to shine into a hole.
IMO
they make lousy worklights, lousy flashlights, and lousy lights in my home. I am slowly, as they burn out, converting my 40 or so, GU-10 potlights in my house back to halogen.
When I encounter LED headlights coming at me at night, I cringe. At age 68, my eyes are becoming slower to adjust, and so I am forced to drive by looking at the shoulder, and occasionally also have to slow down as the retina-burner passes by. This has been on-going for about 10 or so years, when they first became available.
There is no way I would put that on some other old-guy, so will never install LEDS on my car, cuz not every old-guy can drive by referencing the shoulder.
Furthermore, as regards LED tail-lights, like I said, LEDs have no penetration power. So in a snowstorm, it has happened to me that I have caught up to a vehicle with LEDS and nearly smashed into it. Whereas the non-LED cars gave more warning. My guess was that he was crawling along because his headlights also had no penetration power. I don't know that because I don't have and never will have LEDS.
Halogen headlights do what they are supposed to, without the retina-burning effect to oncoming vehicles. If there was only one thing in this world I could hate, it would be LED automotive lighting.
And that's my opinion.

Thank God your experience on something is limited, or we'd gotten two pages. lol
 
For the Dart I used Nighthawks at the reccommendation of @slantsixdan. About the best stock replacements out there. Coupled with one of @TrailBeast relay kits, its hard to beat....The Nighthawks work great, I never drove 80 mph at night, so I didnt need to see half a mile away.

I looked for some Nighthawks just the other day and it appears they are out of production??? Or at least most everywhere that I found them it said only 1 or none available.

There was some Nighthawk Sport ones, though. But based on earlier readings, I think they added a blue tint to the lens which (as I understood) was a bad thing.
 
oh man, the headlights now a days.....f'n horrible. I cant believe that carmakers are allowed to put 747 landing lights on stock vehicles. I am appalled that people are allowed to run this stuff especially in the city. For chrissakes there is enough ambiant light to run with just regular f'n lights in the city. Country life is different. I adjust my side mirror at stop lights to shine into drivers eyes. I do it right in front of him/her. I do not care for your bad manners and oblivious nature.

So.....properly adjust incandescent please. and if you have a bunch of **** on a regular basis in the back of your truck making it a gasser......f'n do it right and have your low beams wwaaaaay down.

hit a nerve on this one.....
 
and yet you quoted the entire post......

You can't put me on ignore, can you......

But you can lambaste me every chance you get. You are such an enigma.....

The butthurt is easy to bring out in you. Did you see the "lol" after my post? I guess not.
 
I looked for some Nighthawks just the other day and it appears they are out of production??? Or at least most everywhere that I found them it said only 1 or none available.

There was some Nighthawk Sport ones, though. But based on earlier readings, I think they added a blue tint to the lens which (as I understood) was a bad thing.
I got mine a few years back from a place called Zoro I believe. $6.99 each. With Covid, I'm sure they would be $25 each.
 
The well made Nighthawk H6024 have been out of production.
Pictures to ID the good ones vs the junk ones here: End of the line for H6024nh and H6054nh

Which gets back the original question.
It depends.
Well aimed, fresh old stock 6012 lamps will generally be more effective than poorly aimed, poorly made LED 'replacement'. In fact it may even be more effective than many of the newly made H6024 lamps sold today.

A top of the line LED replacement made by JWSpeaker, when properly aimed, will be more effective and use less power than most other options. However its expensive and doesn't look anything like a factory lamp.

A top of the line H4 type lamp such as some of the Bosche or Cibie housings, with the right bulb, can also be very effective.

The more reasonably priced lamps to compare are probably Trucklite LED and Hella 'Vision Plus' with a good bulb.
 
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They are all a light source. The rest of the assembly need to work with that source to place the light where you want it.

If you want the best headlight drop in then look to J.W. Speaker and open your wallet wide.

In other cars I've done Bi-Xenon retrofits with the proper optics and color and never had issues with blinding people, in fact they had far less scatter then halogens they replaced and some OEM setups I've seen. My current Jeep's stock LED headlights are great.

I agree, there are those who do it for the look, just like people who have loud exhaust do it for the noise and nothing else.
 
There seems to be a trend the last 5 or so years to see who has the "awesomest" headlights, or at least who has the most LED lightbars. For the Dart I used Nighthawks at the reccommendation of @slantsixdan. About the best stock replacements out there. Coupled with one of @TrailBeast relay kits, its hard to beat.
Among the 17 to 25 crowd, it is amazing how many of these kids toss the headlights Honda and Toyota spent millions and millions perfecting. What does Honda Know? They got themselves the coolest blue tint headlights Ebay had to offer. Fuzzy, unfocused, horrible color temp, etc. About as useful as the shiny anodized tow ring under their rear bumper. More than one person has regretted the Ebay LED "100% guarenteed fit" conversion. The Nighthawks work great, I never drove 80 mph at night, so I didnt need to see half a mile away.

I think you meant to tag @crackedback for the relay kits.:D
 
I have a relay setup using 10ga. wire direct off the battery and Night Hawk sealed beams.
They work great and I have no shortage of light.
Another thing I like about the Night Hawks is they throw more light off to the sides close to the car a lot better than standard bulbs.
Tinted windows at night makes seeing someone in a dark cross walk kind sketchy when turning corners.
I did 4 relays, one for each filament of each bulb so if I loose a relay it can’t shut down both low beams or both highs and have a total blackout.
 
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LED vs halogen vs incandescent headlights ?

Be very careful, picky, and skeptical; there is a ton of unsafe, fraudulent garbage on the market, and it's all marketed as an "upgrade". Info is here.

(Also, all glowing-filament lights are not created equal. There aren't any sealed beams worth buying any more, and there's a huge range of quality and performance in replaceable-bulb halogen lamps to fit our cars)
 
Night Hawk sealed beams

…were the last worthy sealed beams on the market when they were made in America. Now they're very poorly made in China, with severely lousy output (dim, blotchy, useless) and very fragile glass that breaks if you stare hard at it.
 
Here's a video I took. The headlights are halogens that I installed in 1985 (yep 1985). They are on relays with 12 gauge wire running yo them, plenty bright.

 
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