And clean as heck! Hey 12, how much room is under the doghouse?
Trick Flow small block heads
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Room? Hah! Just enough for a fabricated cold air box using a 14x3 air cleaner assembly , the wing nut rubs on the lid just a tad.
PRH
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Sounds good !!
What’s the target again?
What’s the target again?
Honestly I’m a low expectation type, just want to tune on it to see how far I can go with it. I’d “think” if all is tuned properly maybe 11.20-11.30 @ 116-118 mph region? Aero drag to consider. Just guessing as I have never gone faster in anything other than sport bikes, what I did with the previous setup (which was much quicker/faster than I initially expected) is all I have to go by. So who knows, if it hooks and launches and runs out good maybe I’ll surprise myself again.
Johnny likes. Very nice!!!
I think it’s time to go up and through the dog house roof for some fresh air.
yellow rose
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I like the idle speed. Keeps the cam wet and the lifters spinning.
Definitely, when I first fired it up using some cut valve covers to view things the pushrods were spinning quite fast. That idle speed in the video seems about just right. Being the carb was dialed in pretty good for the previous setup I only had to turn out the mixture screws about a 1/4 turn and up the secondary idle speed a little. Not done yet for sure but workable for a baseline
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Schneider “296F” lobes on a 106 LSA 264@.050”, 178@.200”, 385” lobe lift.
gzig5
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Something like the air intakes on a ship should force feed the bad boy. Your aerodynamics can’t get much worse.
I think it’s time to go up and through the dog house roof for some fresh air.
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Actually my air intake setup works pretty good, the engine gets more than enough cool air. I recall someone mentioning here on another thread about just building more power vs. gutting and extreme weight loss. I’d say the same about extreme aero tricks. Just build more power.
They are billet roller 1.6 (Erson) but after much measuring they actually are closer to 1.5, even including angularity loss. Major disappointment, bed was made so..... After lash I have .550”. The B3 kit compliments this but I have some HS (Mancini) rockers that I mocked up after the fact and they are 1.6 and yielded .602” before lash, would be .581” after, and they had good stem positioning and sweep pattern no correction. Those may be going on in the future
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Well, if you stick the “Fresh air” carb feeding vent through the roof of the dog house, it’ll take care of clearing out the smoke... from what’s smokin.... is up to you....
ROAD KILL!!!!!!
Let’s not run this Trick Flow heads thread into the ditch now! 
I know some guys might get a good laugh out of old short bus vans and how some of the owners can be “special, challenged” or just plain old “goofy” ....... Come on man, stop all the malarkey!!!
I know some guys might get a good laugh out of old short bus vans and how some of the owners can be “special, challenged” or just plain old “goofy” ....... Come on man, stop all the malarkey!!!
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PRH
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Looking forward to the track results!!
I was too, unfortunately my first outing was disappointing. Made two runs, lopped off only about .05 seconds off the previous best at this track ET, and picked up 2 MPH. WOW.....I know!
Got a host of new setup issues to sort and knew that going in, but had to get to the track regardless. Main goal was to see how the current 3500 converter worked at the track. Not gonna cut it obviously, need to go big! (still really good on the street though) I need more time tuning on the carb, things are a little more challenging with the idle/transfer etc circuits for one, especially with the increased cam overlap. My plugs show rich, gotta hit some desolate back roads for some chops. I’m getting there though, a little too slow off the line as shown in the video, messed up my new settings on shift light and ignition box rev limiter so both runs i had issues shifting on time. It pulls harder and the times between (spreads) 60’, 330’ and 1/8 are all solid bests, but I lost .10-.16 on my 1.58 best (1.60 average) previous setup 60’ times. I’ve got a lot to work on before I have a solid opinion on the Trick Flow heads. No where near my cautious projections, skeptical I can work my way to them. Right now I’m at “starting over” and I’ve got a mess! One thing at a time.
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That’s it! 1 thing at a time.
You have a set of stainless steel balls that only a large wheelbarrow can tote. I'm diggin' it!
PRH
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You made enough significant changes to the combo at one time(heads/intake/cam), that you’re basically starting over at this point.
And...... you gotta start somewhere.
264* cam + single plane manifold + 3500 converter....... wouldn’t be what I considered an “optimum” combo.
That being said, I wouldn’t be changing anything just yet.
I don’t like to throw parts at something until I feel like I really know what’s going on with it.
I’d suggest another outing or two, to get some “glitch free” runs on it before making changes.
2mph in the 1/8....... that’s not nothing.
Plus...... you got to go to the track and make some runs....... and it’s not broken.
You could have it a lot worse.
And...... you gotta start somewhere.
264* cam + single plane manifold + 3500 converter....... wouldn’t be what I considered an “optimum” combo.
That being said, I wouldn’t be changing anything just yet.
I don’t like to throw parts at something until I feel like I really know what’s going on with it.
I’d suggest another outing or two, to get some “glitch free” runs on it before making changes.
2mph in the 1/8....... that’s not nothing.
Plus...... you got to go to the track and make some runs....... and it’s not broken.
You could have it a lot worse.
Agreed. That’s (logical/methodical approach) pretty much what I adhere to, or mention when commenting on others when sorting things, not throwing stuff at things. But I can see how this stuff can get the mind racing....gotta throw out the anchor! The only reason the converter is still in is because just swapping heads, cam etc was a major task and I wanted to get it back running ASAP. Plan was always to get a converter, just wanted to see where the power is and how it reacts with 1st-2nd, 2nd-3rd rpm drops. Get some actual engine characteristics for when I get a converter built vs just giving specs. But yes, gotta start somewhere and that’s the carb......I had it (and everything else) so dialed in with the previous setup...so much fun let’s do that again!You made enough significant changes to the combo at one time(heads/intake/cam), that you’re basically starting over at this point.
And...... you gotta start somewhere.
264* cam + single plane manifold + 3500 converter....... wouldn’t be what I considered an “optimum” combo.
That being said, I wouldn’t be changing anything just yet.
I don’t like to throw parts at something until I feel like I really know what’s going on with it.
I’d suggest another outing or two, to get some “glitch free” runs on it before making changes.
2mph in the 1/8....... that’s not nothing.
Plus...... you got to go to the track and make some runs....... and it’s not broken.
You could have it a lot worse.
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