Has anyone seen these before.

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I like how the pipes are not stacked on top of each other at the collector. Makes for more ground clearance. Sorta reminds me of the 351C Pinto headers Hedman made years ago.
 
Like these.

351C HEADERS.jpg
 
Ive been told the Y pipe was very long for a specific reason. You can cut them shorter and that helps tune them whatever that means i guess that mean's less back pressure more HP.

It means.... the longer the tube the more torque it makes. The shorter the tube, the more HP it makes. This is a general thing that has its limits. You can go to far and get a zero or negative result.
 
It means.... the longer the tube the more torque it makes. The shorter the tube, the more HP it makes. This is a general thing that has its limits. You can go to far and get a zero or negative result.

If I remember right , the tri -y `s were advertised as a torque header back in the day.
 
That’s what I also heard. As well as better fitting. It’s design makes sense for more torque and seeing dyno tests, and not many of them directly comparing....
The HP lose wasn’t that much to a small noticeable amount, build dependent.... but then again, the builds purpose is what? Doing what? Where? On the street? Or track?
 
Ive been told the Y pipe was very long for a specific reason. You can cut them shorter and that helps tune them whatever that means i guess that mean's less back pressure more HP.
Would you mind sharing the length and diameters of the primary, secondary, and final collector sections?
 
They're cool as they're vintage but otherwise, its hard to get excited about a bent tube header. I also gotta think the four pipes laid in a flat row would really hog the space around the trans. Might be nearly impossible to reach the trans linkage, for instance.
 
In the "Kit Car" days if you were running the 1/4 mile ovals you'd want the 'Tri-Y' for the lower RPM torque band. You did not have time to shift gears so a wide torque band was what was needed.
But the 1 mile+ ovals the higher RPM's let the horsepower of the standard 'Step' headers work. You shifted gears so you were at high RPM most of the time.

I had a set of the stepped tube 340 'Kit Car' flat 4 into 1 collectors like those 351C Pinto shaped ones above for a long time but they did not fit 1965 Dart GT 4 speed so I off loaded them CHEAP. I got a set of "WORTHLESS" 340 A body Iron logs in a trade when everyone was tossing those in the trash.

Those Kit Car headers were so much overkill for my 273 but back in 1975 we did not know. I think the main tube started at 1 7/8 inch. The Tri-Y would have been much better on a 273-318.
 
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