I appreciate that. you and YR have a thing but that has nothing to do with you and me. You know dam good and well you like to stir things up from time to time and for the most part I don't care unless it's muddying up a tech thread. I know this is far from a tech thread but Tony is the guy that needs to prove something if he makes the claim, not the guys refuting it. If YR says his car runs a certain et you can bet your telling him to prove it not the guys denying it.