If you’re pedaling a 80+ lb bike with 4 inch wide knobby tires for 30 miles up and down steep hills you definitely need electric pedal assist. Conventional bikers yell at us, “Why don’t you fu<king pedal!” We are pedaling as hard as we can the whole time. Unless you try it, you won’t understand it. 95% of the time we ride on asphalt. I do notice the youngsters hardly ever pedal the electric bikes—different generation.