Last name

Babies last name in an umarried couple

  • Crann

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Crann-Mendez

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Medez

    Votes: 1 6.7%

  • Mendez-Crann

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • What the hell is the difference as long as the kid is healthy

    Votes: 11 73.3%
  • Total voters
    15
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Wife is having a discussion with a friend. Johns daughter is about to turn 40...is pregnant and not married.
Seeing as how there is a very diverse group in this forum figured it is a good spot to ask this...
John wants his daughter to give the baby there last name. His daughter has told him not going to happen, the baby will have the fathers last name as they are planning on getting married.
Please keep in mind I am not religious..so I have no clue what the Bible says...John is concerned with his branch of the family tree ending with him...amongst other things. One of them is that the child was conceived out of wedlock and being a member of "his religion" will not be possible...unsure of exactly what in the f**k that means.
So what say you fine folks? If you would care to explain your decision I would appreciate it...just curious as to why you answered the way you did. Will be using my last name and my wife's maiden name in the poll..
My wife and I have been talking about this off & on for several weeks now.
If your answer is not listed in the poll please do let me know what you think and I will include it, if I can...
Forgot to mention that currently the mother and father are living together in a home they purchased together. Both are employed...and make a decent living at what ever it is they do.
 
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inkjunkie said:
John is concerned with his branch of the family tree ending with him......
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The family tree branch won't end if the baby does not get his last name.... They keep branching out either way....

The baby should get the father's last name if the father is going to be in the baby's life and support it...

If john is so upset about the family name ending, they can hyphenate the last name, or give his last name for one of the baby's middle names....

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Or give John's last name as the baby's first name... My grandpa, dad, and brother have the first name of Pearson after my great-great grandma who saved my great-great grandpa from Mexicans that were trying to jump his claim on a gold mine back in California in the 1870's...

The Mexicans each had knives and great grandpa had his bare hands... There were originally three Mexicans with knives, but grandpa put his mining pick through the skull of one of them and took him out... Then fought the other two bare handed... After getting cut up, he decided to run and at least split them up... He hid behind a large rock and a woman came up over the hill and handed him a loaded revolver.... He shot one Mexican the other ran off...

She nursed him back to health.... If it wasn't for her coming over the hill with the revolver, I most likely wouldn't be here today... She had an intuition to go over the hill with a revolver and turned back three times before finally going over the hill - and they say there is no such thing as ESP....

That is how they met, and my great-great grandpa ended up marrying her... My grandpa, father, and brother all got her last name as their first name to carry on her family name....
 
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i hate hyphenated last names, but this is a tough one

in my opinion, the "dad" needs to get his lazy but to the court and get a wedding permit

then the mom and the baby can take his last name and they can get married for the church at a later date
(of course the baby will still be conceived out of wedlock, but that is what it is, and i dont know how his "religion" will deal with that)
 
krazykuda said:
The family tree branch won't end if the baby does not get his last name.... They keep branching out either way....

The baby should get the father's last name if the father is going to be in the baby's life and support it...

If john is so upset about the family name ending, they can hyphenate the last name, or give his last name for one of the baby's middle names....

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Or give John's last name as the baby's first name... My grandpa, dad, and brother have the first name of Pearson after my great grandma who saved my great grandpa from two attacking Mexicans that were trying to jump his claim on a gold mine back in California in the 1870's...

The Mexicans each had knives and great grandpa had his bare hands... There were originally three Mexicans with knives, but grandpa put his mining pick through the skull of one of them and took him out... Then fought the other two bare handed... After getting cut up, he decided to run and at least split them up... He hid behind a large rock and a woman came up over the hill and handed him a loaded revolver.... He shot one Mexican the other ran off...

She nursed him back to health.... If it wasn't for her coming over the hill with the revolver, I most likely wouldn't be here today... She had an intuition to go over the hill with a revolver and turned back three times before finally going over the hill - and they say there is no such thing as ESP....

That is how they met, and my grandpa ended up marrying her...
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I should have added, and will correct it, they are living together. From what John has said the father is a good man...and plans on being there for his child no matter what the future may bring.

Interesting story about your great grand parents. Your great grandpa sounds like he was a badass...

diymirage said:
i hate hyphenated last names, but this is a tough one

in my opinion, the "dad" needs to get his lazy but to the court and get a wedding permit

then the mom and the baby can take his last name and they can get married for the church at a later date
(of course the baby will still be conceived out of wedlock, but that is what it is, and i dont know how his "religion" will deal with that)
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Both of us are not fans of hyphenated last names. My wife tried to explain to John that all that matters is the baby is healthy...for the fact that at 40 years old his daughter is pushing the window a bit in regards to birth defects.
 
inkjunkie said:
My wife tried to explain to John that all that matters is the baby is healthy...for the fact that at 40 years old his daughter is pushing the window a bit in regards to birth defects.
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35 is considered "Advanced maternal age"
 
Last names can be tricky, I was born with one last name but my dead beat dad basically deserted my sister and I when I was three so I changed my name to my mother's husband's name who also became a huge flake! I was in my teens by then and did not want to change my name again fast forward 10 years and i had my first two children out of wedlock. My feeling is if the couple's not married the name on the birth certificate should totally be up to the mother. When the children get old enough to pick which name they want they can do that. There are people in my family that I am very proud of we just don't share the same last name. As far as spirituality it has nothing to do with anyone's name and any institution that woulddiscriminate against a family or child for having a different name well you need to get as far away from them as possible and find one who will accept them as they are.
 
inkjunkie said:
I should have added, and will correct it, they are living together. From what John has said the father is a good man...and plans on being there for his child no matter what the future may bring.

Interesting story about your great-great grand parents. Your great-great grandpa sounds like he was a badass...



Both of us are not fans of hyphenated last names. My wife tried to explain to John that all that matters is the baby is healthy...for the fact that at 40 years old his daughter is pushing the window a bit in regards to birth defects.
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I think the baby should have the father's last name... If they are living together and he's going to be in their lives, then the baby should get his last name....

Give the baby, John's last name as a first or middle name to keep his family name going if you don't want to hyphenate it...
 
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inkjunkie said:
John wants his daughter to give the baby there last name. His daughter has told him not going to happen, the baby will have the fathers last name as they are planning on getting married.
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diymirage said:
i hate hyphenated last names, but this is a tough one
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Just watch the first part where I have it start...

 
I have my great grandparents and my grandparents last names on my BC as I’m the first male in 2 generations. It’s listed as my first, middle, great, grand and then my last name... maybe a solution to the dilemma...
 
Wait is she unmarried because she doesn't want to get married to him or are they planning on getting married.
1st scenario I don't have an answer or opinion
2nd scenario as a going to be married couple my vote always goes to the father's last name & the wife takes that name too, yes it's a commitment.
Hope your doing well too !
 
No hyphenated last name and use the father’s.

Tell John he should have had faster swimming sperm if he wanted a male to carry on the family name. Or have his daughter identify as a man then the family name can carry on:thumbsup:
 
The father is the father married or not. The baby should carry the fathers name. If they don't get married the baby should still carry his name, he is the father. Now making a baby doesn't necessary make you a "father", it takes being completely in the child's life with loving care and responsibility. Who knows how it will go married or not, there are still some pitiful slugs out there. Also, John should mind his own business. His " child " is 40 years old, just give her support and STFU.
 
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My sister in law had a child before she married my brother, she was never married to the father, she gave the baby her name.
The father took her to court and had the name changed to his, she took advantage of it and had support formalized and held him to it.


Alan
 
People can name their kid ******** if that's what they want to do.
 
first off old john needs to stop with his fictional religion bullshit. all religion does is cause issues....

they can use whichever name they decide.. doesn't really matter to be honest. its their decision.. and if they are planning to get married i assume she will be taking his last name anyway so why have their kid use a different last name? like i said though it really doesn't matter as long as the parents of said kid agree. john needs to keep he religious *** out of the decision..
 
abodyjoe said:
first off old john needs to stop with his fictional religion bullshit. all religion does is cause issues....

they can use whichever name they decide.. doesn't really matter to be honest. its their decision.. and if they are planning to get married i assume she will be taking his last name anyway so why have their kid use a different last name? like i said though it really doesn't matter as long as the parents of said kid agree. john needs to keep he religious *** out of the decision..
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What does religion have to do with it? The baby gets the fathers last name unless someone is a full on leftist retard. Religion has nothing to do with it.

And religion doesn’t cause issues. People cause issues. People who are ignorant of the truth cause issues.
 
yellow rose said:
What does religion have to do with it? The baby gets the fathers last name unless someone is a full on leftist retard. Religion has nothing to do with it.

And religion doesn’t cause issues. People cause issues. People who are ignorant of the truth cause issues.
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i don't know.. you'll have to ask this john guy john how religion fits in. its causing issues with him obviously. (read quote below)

John is concerned with his branch of the family tree ending with him...amongst other things. One of them is that the child was conceived out of wedlock and being a member of "his religion" will not be possible..
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and yes religion causes all kinds of issues. its about all it does...its all about control.. its amazing how that fictional bullshit can control so many people.


yellow rose said:
The baby gets the fathers last name unless someone is a full on leftist retard.
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again thats totally up to the parents.. i'm sure there are millions of reasons why one would choose one or the other. in the end thats the parents choice either way.

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I'm on the fence about most of this stuff .....but I know that religion can cause all kinds of issues, you don't have to believe me. Just look at ISLAM in the middle east. They get people to join by taking your children and killing them in front of you until you agree to join them. I know it's sick but that's what they do.
 
abodyjoe said:
i don't know.. you'll have to ask this john guy john how religion fits in. its causing issues with him obviously. (read quote below)




and yes religion causes all kinds of issues. its about all it does...its all about control.. its amazing how that fictional bullshit can control so many people.




again thats totally up to the parents.. i'm sure there are millions of reasons why one would choose one or the other. in the end thats the parents choice either way.

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LOL. True religion isn’t about control at all. Sounds like you need to do some study.

Again, regardless of what the father thinks, I want you to show me where theBible says a damn thing about how a baby takes a name. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t.

Again, religion has nothing to do with it. If the father is claiming his “religion” is dictating the name of his grandson, I’d say go read Isaiah 8:20 and see if that fits. Because it doesn’t.
 
Treblig said:
I'm on the fence about most of this stuff .....but I know that religion can cause all kinds of issues, you don't have to believe me. Just look at ISLAM in the middle east. They get people to join by taking your children and killing them in front of you until you agree to join them. I know it's sick but that's what they do.
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That means you have to define Islam as a religion. It certainly is not.
 
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