Actually dirty white boy, I try to see all sides. If you have been watching, I just had a difference of opinion with yellowrose over big bore. I was trying to explain there are other interests beside racing, and that even in racing there are things to consider with respect to bore and stroke for different tracks or applications. My interest is more toward strong running street engines that run cleanly. The engine masters is supposed to be a showcase of engine builders talents, supposedly aimed at street use. I doubt anyone would argue their engines are more race oriented with 0.8" valve lift and 2:1 rocker ratios.