I am Sooooo Confused over Paint

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Also please don't use those products.. you hit the nail on the head without maybe realizing it... do you know what activates those products? moisture..... They were made to coat oil rigs out in the ocean so need to cure in a wet environment. What the professional restoration guys on the SPI site will share is there experiences with vehicles that they knocked the POR off and the metal under was gone. It absorbs moisture to dry then traps that moisture against the metal and it continues to rust. There will be proponents of POR and those type products saying the metal was not prepped correct. My argument is if you spend the time to remove all the rust to prep it right then all you really need after that is epoxy primer anyway.
I saw a video where a guy was working on a customer's truck and the truck when new was coated in por 15 or some other undercoating products and from a distance it looked like it was doing its job but he discovered that it was rusting under the coating bad! Like the floors where gone. Iirc he was replacing brake lines and the brackets where even rusted in half the whole truck was rotten because of this coating it was just holding in the moisture under the coating. And this was like a 10 year old truck (farily new to me) and I was a lost cause.
 
^^^ I agree. Clean metal, epoxy primer, AND topcoat that with urethane primer AND topcoat with whatever, on the floors, etc Good ole thick and heavy Rusteoleum enamel works great! IF not floors, topcoat with real auto paint, acrylic urethane, enamel or bc/cc. Screw POR15!
I used rustoleum on my floors both inside and put, trunk, gas tank, inside of the fenders and all my suspension parts . Works pretty good for a driver quality rig.
 
Check out vice grip garage on youtube. The guy sprays his truck in white for like $80 bucks. Came out pretty good for a beater truck. I don't think he's a painter so he won't speak down to you as an authority on the work.
 
So back to the op, charliec, did you get anything useful out of these posts and make a decision about what to do?
 
So back to the op, charliec, did you get anything useful out of these posts and make a decision about what to do?
You bet, I did. I know that I have a lot more hours to put into primer/filler/blocking!!! Then, since I'm not looking for show-quality, I will probably go single stage. Looking for the right color also. The car was yellow with black vinyl top when I bought it, and that really appealed to me. I am trying to identify the correct yellow. I think Plymouth called it "sunfire". It's not a knock-your-socks-off bright yellow. It's a little muted, but not pale.

I appreciate all the advice. Very helpful.
 
You bet, I did. I know that I have a lot more hours to put into primer/filler/blocking!!! Then, since I'm not looking for show-quality, I will probably go single stage. Looking for the right color also. The car was yellow with black vinyl top when I bought it, and that really appealed to me. I am trying to identify the correct yellow. I think Plymouth called it "sunfire". It's not a knock-your-socks-off bright yellow. It's a little muted, but not pale.

I appreciate all the advice. Very helpful.
You can go to TCP Global Color Library for ppg charts that gives you an idea for OEM choices for that yr..
 
I saw a video where a guy was working on a customer's truck and the truck when new was coated in por 15 or some other undercoating products and from a distance it looked like it was doing its job but he discovered that it was rusting under the coating bad! Like the floors where gone. Iirc he was replacing brake lines and the brackets where even rusted in half the whole truck was rotten because of this coating it was just holding in the moisture under the coating. And this was like a 10 year old truck (farily new to me) and I was a lost cause.
WAYyyyyy back in the 60's I had worked after school (17 yrs old) and had enough $$ to buy a brand new 2 horse side by side trailer. I was so damned proud. The trailer manu. had a new method to "preserve" those wooded 2 x 10 floor boards. They undercoated the heck out of the bottom sides and laid a really think coat of tar (probably in thick!) over the top side, then rubber mats on that. About a year later, I had just loaded a horse and his foot went thru the floor!!!! Dry rotted! in a year!
Reminds me of Por 15 somewhat.
I have restored more than my share of old Mopars since about '95, I get along well with Good epoxy primer, urethane primer, sometimes a little polyester primer, acrylic urethane, Rusteolum ( NO not the top coat) and staying away from most all aerosols!!!
Disclaimer: Your results may vary. :lol:
 
I'm a fan of epoxy primer, high build sandable, polyurethane single stage. I like PPG concept but our local vendor is dropping it, says it's too expensive. I'm bummed because I have a half gallon of color left from my Barracuda build and the rest and have a comet cyclone to paint that codes out red on white and I am thinking about painting the car the same color as my Barracuda.
 
For what's worth, I like the POR-15 products. No, I don't work for them. Frame parts, like my bumper mounts were sandblasted and brush coated and left to dry. It self leveled, and brush strokes were gone. I can still read the factory part numbers. YMMV.
 
I bought a sample of single stage acrylic urethane at Tasco. Color is Soft Yellow, 81574 SS1. My painting skills suck, but we nailed the color I was shooting for.
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