When I built my house I had a plumbing advisor he is a journeyman. He advised me to buy North American made crappers because the imports had a small throat. Haven’t had a problem YET. But you know speak of the devil
my grandparent had a throne with a plateau on it...almost like a shelf
the great thing was that it didnt make a splash when it fell in, but you couldnt put a whole lot of turds on there without getting in the way of wiping afterwards