Is the cam timing the problem, or something else?

RustyRatRod said

Why would you do that when the cam you have hasn't been degreed and essentially isn't in the engine "right"? You really have zero basis for comparison. Swapping cams may put you in the same place you are, maybe worse.

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That is true, I don't need to have to revisit this problem repeatedly, frustration is taking over, once I get it apart and can at least find out if it is not installed right or if there is something else wrong, I will have an option if I need or want.