Cheap Headers How low do they hang?

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Whats up, planning on using some summit or hooker headers on my 1967 Barracuda, i use to have some on my old 68 i do remember they hanged a Little low but that was when i had some 235 60 14 tires up front. Im running 205 70 15 up front my car has alot of ground clearance you guys got any photos of how low they hang thanks!

PS i know there a ***** to install but thats the hobby anit it>???
 
It depends on "WHERE" your ride height is and what height front tires you run. If you run at least stock diameter tires and are at the stock ride height, they work fine.
 
RustyRatRod said:
It depends on "WHERE" your ride height is and what height front tires you run. If you run at least stock diameter tires and are at the stock ride height, they work fine.
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Yup i like the front height high so when i race them ricers i dont got slow down on the train tracks or dips. I got power steering too ill probably get rid of that ad go manual since i got the heads already off.
 
Slantsix64 said:
Yup i like the front height high so when i race them ricers i dont got slow down on the train tracks or dips. I got power steering too ill probably get rid of that ad go manual since i got the heads already off.
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I don't think you'll have a problem. @Bad Sport runs them on his car. Maybe he'll chime in. I've run several sets on cars through the years. Hedman, Summit, Flow Tec, Hooker.....they're all bent about the same.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I don't think you'll have a problem. @Bad Sport runs them on his car. Maybe he'll chime in. I've run several sets on cars through the years. Hedman, Summit, Flow Tec, Hooker.....they're all bent about the same.
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Thanks Rob! im on a budget for power and cheap headers and some busted knuckles sounds about right!
 
Slantsix64 said:
Thanks Rob! im on a budget for power and cheap headers and some busted knuckles sounds about right!
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Thing is, even though the forum experts will argue, they all flow about the same.
 
i used stainless steel ones off ebay in my valiant, they were cheaper than summit ones. i also swapped to manual steering and they cleared well with decent ground clearance. they were very cheap (chinese?) but thick flanges and decent welds. only thing to note was the outer ports didn't have the angled bit at the lower outer corners, my 360 heads are heavily ported so daylight showed there and i made 2mm copper gaskets to seal that up. i've not got any underside pics but these are what i have, about 3/4 way down the page 68 valiant signet
neil.
 
I run the Summit headers and have roughly 7 inches of clearance, stock ride height on a 74 Dart Sport. I do slow down for speed bumps, but other than that I haven't scraped anything yet.
 
First and foremost any header I use and any header than any one of my customers uses we put remflex gaskets on them and never get to leak, end of story..
I had cheap headers on my 72 Duster and they hit the ground all the time. The problem was I had the 14 inch rims and tires with low profile tires and a low set suspension. Now I have cheap headers and I have 15 inch rims and a higher setting and not ultra low profile tires and I've never hit the headers in 8 years....
 
Also I must add that I have never tried to recreate the last scene of the original fast and furious and raced a Rice burner over railroad tracks LOL...
 
These are the Summit/Jegs cheepies on a 63 small block B body. Same part number for A&B cars.
Driver side, steering center link runs thru it.Pipes hangs lower then the passenger side.

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I'm not sure about the other brands, but don't use Flowtech headers if you have power steering.
They hit the box itself slightly which a few easy dings corrected, but the big issue is that they hit the steering coupler right square in the middle of the #7 tube.
Even after bashing the tube in about half way and putting spacers in the motor mounts and moving the steering column over as far as it would go, it still hit.
They hang about as low as the picture in post #11, which isn't too bad.
Out of all fairness, I discovered later that they were designed for a B, E, or C body and trucks.
The car pictured is a '69 Valiant with a '70 318 in it.
Notice in the picture that #7 tube is also very close to the plastic bushing in the lower steering column.
And you guessed it, the plastic bushing distorted a bit and now the steering wheel doesn't turn freely.
I gave up and put the stock manifolds back on until I can afford some TTIs Or Doug's headers.
It's just a stock cruiser anyway.......

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Dartnut said:
I'm not sure about the other brands, but don't use Flowtech headers if you have power steering.
They hit the box itself slightly which a few easy dings corrected, but the big issue is that they hit the steering coupler right square in the middle of the #7 tube.
Even after bashing the tube in about half way and putting spacers in the motor mounts and moving the steering column over as far as it would go, it still hit.
They hang about as low as the picture in post #11, which isn't too bad.
Out of all fairness, I discovered later that they were designed for a B, E, or C body and trucks.
The car pictured is a '69 Valiant with a '70 318 in it.
Notice in the picture that #7 tube is also very close to the plastic bushing in the lower steering column.
And you guessed it, the plastic bushing distorted a bit and now the steering wheel doesn't turn freely.
I gave up and put the stock manifolds back on until I can afford some TTIs Or Doug's headers.
It's just a stock cruiser anyway.......

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Oh, I forgot to add that the passenger side went in pretty easily with just a small ding to clear torsion bar, but I already had the 90 degree oil filter adapter from the factory.
Also, the factory starter worked with no clearance issues.........
 
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