These big headers, with 3.5 collectors just don't leave me much real-estate, and they point right at the trans crossmember. I may be able to get an exhaust shop to make me some little 16 inch extensions that are an "S" bend, and can tuck them where my torsion bars used to be...but i also still have a speedo cable in it, and trans cooler under there. so just don't want to bake anything.