Cost of Driving an EV

LocuMob said
Your horse comparison doesn't work, no matter how many examples you try to show. If we didn't have a road system, it may work, but that was 100+ years ago that any comparison would be valid.
What we are talking about is changing the propulsion mode of the automobile, not how we transport people and goods. Electric may be the future, but it is coming faster than the actual demand for it is growing. It is being forced as the new normal before being normal. In Minnesota, we sell 2,000 electric vehicles a year, but will be mandated to have 19,000 of them sitting on dealer lots in 2024. That will increase the cost of every IC vehicle on the lots to cover the money the dealer pays for those ev's that aren't being sold. It will also increase the cost of used vehicles, much the same way the chip shortage is raising new and used car pricing. Demand isn't there yet. Even in the bluest of blue states where they sell many more. I know Chicago has a ton of them, but they are a city of 2.8M people, so the greater numbers are to be expected.

What is the total percentage of EV's on the road today? Please show me those numbers, it will show how far off the demand is for these cars.

And if the younger people in urban areas don't want to even buy a car, that reduces the demand even more.
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LocuMob said
Your horse comparison doesn't work, no matter how many examples you try to show. If we didn't have a road system, it may work, but that was 100+ years ago that any comparison would be valid.
What we are talking about is changing the propulsion mode of the automobile, not how we transport people and goods. Electric may be the future, but it is coming faster than the actual demand for it is growing. It is being forced as the new normal before being normal. In Minnesota, we sell 2,000 electric vehicles a year, but will be mandated to have 19,000 of them sitting on dealer lots in 2024. That will increase the cost of every IC vehicle on the lots to cover the money the dealer pays for those ev's that aren't being sold. It will also increase the cost of used vehicles, much the same way the chip shortage is raising new and used car pricing. Demand isn't there yet. Even in the bluest of blue states where they sell many more. I know Chicago has a ton of them, but they are a city of 2.8M people, so the greater numbers are to be expected.

What is the total percentage of EV's on the road today? Please show me those numbers, it will show how far off the demand is for these cars.

And if the younger people in urban areas don't want to even buy a car, that reduces the demand even more.
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That's what I'm talking about. Changing the propulsion. From horse to gas from gas to hybrid from hybrid to all electric and so on. Same is true today as 100 + years ago. Gas stations did not pre-exist the horseless carriage. Same reasoning used today against ev. Only it's charging stations instead of gas stations.
You could argue about what the rate of increasing sales of ev's is but I think we can agree that sales have increased from year to year and probably will continue to do so in the near future.
As far as younger people trending toward not owning cars I see that that could lead to a decrease the overall demand for vehicles. But not the increase in demand for ev over ic. Pure speculation on my part but I think an increasing percentage of young urban people that do purchase cars will be looking at ev's.
As far as what the new normal is and what speed is too fast for change that depends on how you feel about it. Feelings are personal. Some say it's too fast others say it can't happen fast enough.
It could be that the state of Minn. is demanding too many EV's on the lots of dealers. I don't know anything about who what or why this is being mandated. I think the demand for EV's in 2024 remains to be seen in 2024.
I don't know the total number of EV 's on the road today. My guess is it's more than it was last year at this time and last year was more than the year before.