Pro Stock. Then and now

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I liked it better then.
I admit I'm stuck in the 70's and 80's.
Racing is like rock and roll, it got worse after the 80's.
 
Very cool but Dang, disappointed no rainbow striped Daytona's or avengers
 
Why even put an RPM limit on an engine. If they were blowing up at 11,000 RPM the guys would build them so they wouldn't blow up. Losing an engine is a costly problem and also prevents you from winning. So the racers would dig deep to prevent losing an engine. Maybe put a cost limit on the engine instead. I never even watch NHRA anymore after going to Englishtown every year and saw the Mopars in the winners circuit back then. We know all the fuel, nitro cars, are Hemi powered.
 
Thanks for the link. Saw PS on tv the other day. What crappy looking cars!
I don't see the point, if they're all chevys why can't they look like real cars? I mean they only race each other.
 
tonysrt said:
Why even put an RPM limit on an engine. If they were blowing up at 11,000 RPM the guys would build them so they wouldn't blow up. Losing an engine is a costly problem and also prevents you from winning. So the racers would dig deep to prevent losing an engine. Maybe put a cost limit on the engine instead. I never even watch NHRA anymore after going to Englishtown every year and saw the Mopars in the winners circuit back then. We know all the fuel, nitro cars, are Hemi powered.
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They put the limit on them because the GM platform didn’t make power that high. Simple as that. And when GM doesn’t get what it wants, it snivels. They said they did it because the cost of valve springs was going through the roof, when in fact that is a best a half truth. The biggest cost factor for Pro Stock was running 24 races and all the costs associated with that. Chris McGaha laid it all out. NHRA knew exactly what it was doing to the MoPar platform when it made that rule. It also knew what would happen when they changed from VP to Sunoco fuel. The burn rate was detrimental to the MoPar. All of this has been documented on line. That’s how I learned it.
 
Rat Bastid said:
They put the limit on them because the GM platform didn’t make power that high. Simple as that. And when GM doesn’t get what it wants, it snivels. They said they did it because the cost of valve springs was going through the roof, when in fact that is a best a half truth. The biggest cost factor for Pro Stock was running 24 races and all the costs associated with that. Chris McGaha laid it all out. NHRA knew exactly what it was doing to the MoPar platform when it made that rule. It also knew what would happen when they changed from VP to Sunoco fuel. The burn rate was detrimental to the MoPar. All of this has been documented on line. That’s how I learned it.
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That is fucked up
 
When you say Hemi it only means Mopar. They designed it and put it in street cars. When they open the hood of the funny cars and I see the 2 Distributors up front on an angle I know they are Hemi's.
 
LocuMob said:
On one broadcast about three years ago, they said they weren't Hemis because the blocks didn't come from Dodge, they were aftermarket. Yeah, ok.
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was it a Dodge Hemi or a Ford Hemi. probably just an aftermarket hemi.
 
fishmens67 said:
was it a Dodge Hemi or a Ford Hemi. probably just an aftermarket hemi.
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Good point Rat Bastid, watching pro stock is like the old IROC series same cars just different colors and ugly at that. I can't stand Magaha ever since he made the comment saying what a PIA Mopar fans were. At least there is one Mopar we can root for , he's getting closer to the Chevies in power and E.T. Even with Mopar sponsoring a few national meets Mopars still can't catch a break in Pro stock right on down to Stock and Super Stock.
 
Rat Bastid said:
All of this has been documented on line. That’s how I learned it.
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I couldn't help but giggle a little when I read this, considering the reputation most online information has. Not arguing or disputing anything in the post, this just struck me as funny.

I agree that todays pro stock is pretty much like watching nascar six and a half seconds at a time. It would suit me fine if nhra moved more toward the factory shoot out type cars as pro stock. They're fast and recognizable.
 
justinp61 said:
I couldn't help but giggle a little when I read this, considering the reputation most online information has. Not arguing or disputing anything in the post, this just struck me as funny.

I agree that todays pro stock is pretty much like watching nascar six and a half seconds at a time. It would suit me fine if nhra moved more toward the factory shoot out type cars as pro stock. They're fast and recognizable.
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I’m sure you read by now that this is coming in an exhibition class for now


A New Pro Stock On The Horizon? NHRA Announces New A/FX Exhibition Class For '22
 
justinp61 said:
I couldn't help but giggle a little when I read this, considering the reputation most online information has. Not arguing or disputing anything in the post, this just struck me as funny.

I agree that todays pro stock is pretty much like watching nascar six and a half seconds at a time. It would suit me fine if nhra moved more toward the factory shoot out type cars as pro stock. They're fast and recognizable.
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Lol...by “online” I meant reputable sources like Competitionplus.com and such where they practice big J drag racing journalism. Not some forum.
 
I can appreciate the technology in today's version of Pro Stock, but the lack of variety is embarrassing to say the least. It is truly a 'Pro Camaro' class today. When I attended the New England Nationals this year I was thrilled to see a Mopar entry. After he went out in first round, which I fully expected given the disadvantage he faces, I went to the pits to check out the stock and super stockers when Pro Stock came to the lanes. It's just boring now, though I do enjoy seeing Erica whip Gregg. I'm looking forward to see how the new F/X class does, though I have no doubt that the NHRA will continue to kowtow to GM.
 
barbee6043 said:
Heck I'm still stuck in the 60's!! and almost the 50s!!!
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My dad and uncle and guys like you are the reason I'm not wearing spandex and peddling down a bike path.
I was raised a little on the wild side, fast cars, dirt and street bikes and rock and roll.
 
Rat Bastid said:
They put the limit on them because the GM platform didn’t make power that high. Simple as that. And when GM doesn’t get what it wants, it snivels. They said they did it because the cost of valve springs was going through the roof, when in fact that is a best a half truth. The biggest cost factor for Pro Stock was running 24 races and all the costs associated with that. Chris McGaha laid it all out. NHRA knew exactly what it was doing to the MoPar platform when it made that rule. It also knew what would happen when they changed from VP to Sunoco fuel. The burn rate was detrimental to the MoPar. All of this has been documented on line. That’s how I learned it.
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Just like back in the day, they changed the rules to let Cheby's run lighter Per Cubic inch. Mopars were weighed down and the Cleveland Fords were really burdened.
 
I enjoyed Pro Stock more than Funnies or Top Fuel. That is, before GM cried about the Mopar cars beating them too often. A Hemi power band is higher than the Chevy engines, so if you cut the rpm's off before the hemi torque comes into play, you essentially eliminate one manufacturer from the competition. I can't stand to watch NHRA anymore. Same with NASCAR, make the rules to favor the bowties.
 
demonjim said:
I enjoyed Pro Stock more than Funnies or Top Fuel. That is, before GM cried about the Mopar cars beating them too often. A Hemi power band is higher than the Chevy engines, so if you cut the rpm's off before the hemi torque comes into play, you essentially eliminate one manufacturer from the competition. I can't stand to watch NHRA anymore. Same with NASCAR, make the rules to favor the bowties.
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demonjim hit the nail on the head... exactly
 
Say it what it is. The "BAD BOYS" of today are "Keith Black" Hemi motors, perfecting the Mopar ones. I'm far from an expert on this, but I would bet, they are not 426's. 10,000 HP is a lot of ponies.
 
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