Thanks Rumble; that means a lot to me that you occasionally agree with me. I know we don't always see eye to eye, but I admit that I have learned more than a little bit from you. I think sometimes, that some of us ( no one in particular) are like Roses in the hedge, all nice-like in the flower, smell so good and all, but a lil prickly in the stems lol, but all-in-all the hedge does look nice with all the other flowers in it..