Yes and I'm not surprised you know that lol! I tried it on a test run day before, no chains. Couldn't stay on top and it was nasty when tires broke through. That's when I decided I'd better go buy another set of chains. It either needs to melt more or get colder. I was dragging the diff's for last 70 feet, snow was getting deeper fast with the steepest grade ahead, was about 400 feet from the site.