Working on cars alone VS having a few buddies around....

That's really nice, Cliff. I am really happy for you. You need to cherish that, because not every father and son(s) has that relationship. Mine left in 2008 and has not been back sense. I don't even wanna talk about the road he's gone down.

You are correct, I didn’t have the same “relationship” with my “father” . Haven’t seen him since 1988, last time I called him was 1991. Died in jail a few years back. All he cared about was himself and how he looked to his friends, his “place” in business and community.

I on the other had see my boys all the time, Matt and I have worked at the same shop now for almost 15 years and Chris was here too till a few years ago. Close with the boys and girls, close with our grandchildren. Some of us learn and don’t repeat those things in life that left a mark.

Cliff Ramsdell