Around here when the 1st snow comes the line is, ah the stupid dust is falling again. It just seems like everyone just forgets what they learned 6 months ago. Live on a mile rd that doesn’t go west or north Deep drain ditch beside rd, corner well marked, every year I make at least two bottles of crown pulling guy’s out with the Massey. This year so far only one but the season not over yet. However the local towing company has pulled 4 all with in the same week