1964 Dart Grüne Hölle Road Course/Track Day/AutoX Project
5/19/20:
Preparing for the T5 Swap...
I have not yet gotten to cutting any floors or raising any crossmembers yet, Will be getting to that soon.
I got the 3 speed out and was eyeing up the viability of the parts needed to do the swap. I have 2 t5's and 2 conversion bell housings to choose from; One was From the Slant 6 Bellhousing Group Buy back in ~2005 which I was not a part of, but I acquired one from someone that abandoned their Transmission swap project.
I had a nice flywheel made about 10 years ago at Wilcap - this is the time to use it.. It was made for the '68 Up Slant 6 Crank Hub Register which is ~2.165"Ø and the engine / Crank currently in the car is a Small Hub Crank ...Production years 1960-67 which has a Hub of ~1.870"Ø.
If it were just some sort of stockish build I would get the correct flywheel and be done.. but that's not the case so I designed up some Adapter Rings and am getting those made now.
Picture of the progress:
Bye Bye old Sandy, Greasy Non Synchro 1st Gear 3 Speed!
Who Knows maybe this car was in a flood? there is tons of sand on top of the trans and stuck to all the greasy Stuff under here!
Lots of sand, Grease and undercoating to scrape off in the tunnel before cutting / grinding / welding.
Scrapin, we be Scrapin, Mon!
Get It light by taking all the sand out!
Time for class... er world class t5 that is.. I was taking notes.
I was able to purchase a complete T5 with most of the necessary parts from another die hard slant 6 fellow. Since he did alot of the work and engineering this does make things easier for me... He also had Desirable parts in the swap that are just bespoke or no longer made.. such as the Mcloeod 9" Pressure plate. Back in 2000-2004 it was easier to get parts like this from McLeod.
Here is the Pressure Plate when I got it.. Good parts, but it needed refreshed.
It also Had a Nice 9" Dual Friction Disc with the t5 Splines in the Center Hub. Kevlar Pucks on one side and Organic Facing on the other.
I sent Both the Disc and Pressure Plate to Falcon Clutch Falcon Clutch Specialist in Deer Park NY.
I talked to them on the phone and Told them I wanted the Pressure Ring Blanchard Ground and Rebuilt with the same exact spring pressures as it had When I sent it to them.. I also had them Reface the 9" clutch disc the same way that it was made from McLeod.. One side with pucks and the other side full organic..
Here's how it came back: (New Parts on Right Side !)
Here's the Flywheel.. Sort of a Fidazna'ish Slant 6 Flywheel.
I got a 28 Spline Yoke, And once the T5 is in the Car I can measure for a driveshaft too.
Again, I was able to buy some parts from a successful t5 slant 6 swap that was removed from a car??!? So I dont have to make a trans crossmember, but this one is thin.. so I think I will weld up some metal to beef it up.. Its made of light gauge metal for some reason.
Lastly, I have some measuring and futzing Around with the Input Bearing and associated adapters.
Parts on order to make this all work.. Also might have to fire up the lathe!.
Cheers! Greg
5/19/20:
Preparing for the T5 Swap...
I have not yet gotten to cutting any floors or raising any crossmembers yet, Will be getting to that soon.
I got the 3 speed out and was eyeing up the viability of the parts needed to do the swap. I have 2 t5's and 2 conversion bell housings to choose from; One was From the Slant 6 Bellhousing Group Buy back in ~2005 which I was not a part of, but I acquired one from someone that abandoned their Transmission swap project.
I had a nice flywheel made about 10 years ago at Wilcap - this is the time to use it.. It was made for the '68 Up Slant 6 Crank Hub Register which is ~2.165"Ø and the engine / Crank currently in the car is a Small Hub Crank ...Production years 1960-67 which has a Hub of ~1.870"Ø.
If it were just some sort of stockish build I would get the correct flywheel and be done.. but that's not the case so I designed up some Adapter Rings and am getting those made now.
Picture of the progress:
Bye Bye old Sandy, Greasy Non Synchro 1st Gear 3 Speed!
Who Knows maybe this car was in a flood? there is tons of sand on top of the trans and stuck to all the greasy Stuff under here!
Lots of sand, Grease and undercoating to scrape off in the tunnel before cutting / grinding / welding.
Scrapin, we be Scrapin, Mon!
Get It light by taking all the sand out!
Time for class... er world class t5 that is.. I was taking notes.
I was able to purchase a complete T5 with most of the necessary parts from another die hard slant 6 fellow. Since he did alot of the work and engineering this does make things easier for me... He also had Desirable parts in the swap that are just bespoke or no longer made.. such as the Mcloeod 9" Pressure plate. Back in 2000-2004 it was easier to get parts like this from McLeod.
Here is the Pressure Plate when I got it.. Good parts, but it needed refreshed.
It also Had a Nice 9" Dual Friction Disc with the t5 Splines in the Center Hub. Kevlar Pucks on one side and Organic Facing on the other.
I sent Both the Disc and Pressure Plate to Falcon Clutch Falcon Clutch Specialist in Deer Park NY.
I talked to them on the phone and Told them I wanted the Pressure Ring Blanchard Ground and Rebuilt with the same exact spring pressures as it had When I sent it to them.. I also had them Reface the 9" clutch disc the same way that it was made from McLeod.. One side with pucks and the other side full organic..
Here's how it came back: (New Parts on Right Side !)
Here's the Flywheel.. Sort of a Fidazna'ish Slant 6 Flywheel.
I got a 28 Spline Yoke, And once the T5 is in the Car I can measure for a driveshaft too.
Again, I was able to buy some parts from a successful t5 slant 6 swap that was removed from a car??!? So I dont have to make a trans crossmember, but this one is thin.. so I think I will weld up some metal to beef it up.. Its made of light gauge metal for some reason.
Lastly, I have some measuring and futzing Around with the Input Bearing and associated adapters.
Parts on order to make this all work.. Also might have to fire up the lathe!.
Cheers! Greg
