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Is there a chart or matrix of what switches are compatible with what vehicles? Currently our 64 Barracuda has a single speed wiper switch (part number 2291668), with no windshield washer equipment at all. No nozzles, lines, reservoir or pump. I'd like to replace my switch with one that supports an electric pump as I see there's a complete kit available for an electric washer. I guess I technically could just add a button somewhere under the dash if needed, but that's not very intuitive. There seems to be a ton of mopar wiper switches available, but not sure what would fit.
 
From most of what I have read switches have to match the wiper motor. 2spd/2spd and 3spd with 3spd.
Most with a washer pump are 3 spd I believe. Our 67 is.
 
The separate switch may not be ideal, but from what I've read you could be into an awful lot of headaches trying to convert. I'm not familiar with the early a's, do a search on here to see what is all involved?
 
You could always find an old manual foot pump washer system. I bet you could find one on here as a whole set up. I sent my manual foot pump to @moparmat2000 and he replaced the manual foot pump with an electric momentary switch so I could avoid the peril of a leaking manual pump, which sucks washer fluid into the passenger cabin, then pumps it out again. I love the new set up because I have a bullet proof washer set up that I can actuate without taking my hands off the wheel when the weather is bad. Thanks Matt!!!
 
str12-340 said:
You could always find an old manual foot pump washer system. I bet you could find one on here as a whole set up. I sent my manual foot pump to @moparmat2000 and he replaced the manual foot pump with an electric momentary switch so I could avoid the peril of a leaking manual pump, which sucks washer fluid into the passenger cabin, then pumps it out again. I love the new set up because I have a bullet proof washer set up that I can actuate without taking my hands off the wheel when the weather is bad. Thanks Matt!!!
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I saw that thread on my searches. I'm not sure if I have the mounting for the manual foot pump but I can check under the car and see. I presume there are mounting holes for it?
 
No holes if the car didn't come with that option, don't know if there are dimples to drill out, but I bet so. This mounts above the dimmer switch. Pictures in the morning. All there are are 2 holes to bolt the bracket to the floor and a big one above in the firewall for the hoses to and from - that hole is in all the 67 and up cars.
 
No holes if the car didn't come with that option, don't know if there are dimples to drill out, but I bet so. This mounts above the dimmer switch. Pictures in the morning. All there are are 2 holes to bolt the bracket to the floor and a big one above in the firewall for the hoses to and from - that hole is in all the 67 and up cars.
 
str12-340 said:
You could always find an old manual foot pump washer system. I bet you could find one on here as a whole set up. I sent my manual foot pump to @moparmat2000 and he replaced the manual foot pump with an electric momentary switch so I could avoid the peril of a leaking manual pump, which sucks washer fluid into the passenger cabin, then pumps it out again. I love the new set up because I have a bullet proof washer set up that I can actuate without taking my hands off the wheel when the weather is bad. Thanks Matt!!!
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So you installed it? Dont remember if you replied to me about it. Were the wires the correct length? Everything routed ok? I made a second harness up for the 69 cuda, and stored it all away. I dont think I wrote down all the wire lengths I used. I made yours and mine identically the same.
 
I pulled the switch out of the dash and for some reason, mine had a washer behind it. Basically, it kept the keyed portion of the switch from going through the dash. I'm not sure if they did this because of depth or what. Weird.
 
My ‘72 Demon has two speed wipers. Don’t know if the switch (two speed) is original. The harness connector fits on well but does not connect to one of the spades on the switch. I have not checked it out but I believe the extra spade is for a electric pump as the switch knob can be depressed as if to activate a pump.
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Witchboard said:
Is there a chart or matrix of what switches are compatible with what vehicles? Currently our 64 Barracuda has a single speed wiper switch (part number 2291668), with no windshield washer equipment at all. No nozzles, lines, reservoir or pump. I'd like to replace my switch with one that supports an electric pump as I see there's a complete kit available for an electric washer. I guess I technically could just add a button somewhere under the dash if needed, but that's not very intuitive. There seems to be a ton of mopar wiper switches available, but not sure what would fit.
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If you want the factory setup, try to find a '64-6 A-body parts car with variable speed wipers. For ease of wiring and interchange, try to find a genuine '64 model. You'll need the switch and related wiring along with the variable speed wiper motor. The '65-6 use the same motor, but, the switch and wiring are a bit different, but, can be adapted. AFAIK the wiper transmissions are the same between single speed and variable speed those years, but, the '64 transmission pivots use bolt-on wiper arms, whereas the '65-6 use the push-on arms. You'll also need the wiring, washer pump, hoses, T-fitting, nozzles, and reservoir too of course. Early A's used the Jiffy Jet bag and bracket. Later models used the plastic reservoir. All '66 and earlier A-bodies used the remote pump that mounted on the inner fender.
 
cudamark said:
If you want the factory setup, try to find a '64-6 A-body parts car with variable speed wipers. For ease of wiring and interchange, try to find a genuine '64 model. You'll need the switch and related wiring along with the variable speed wiper motor. The '65-6 use the same motor, but, the switch and wiring are a bit different, but, can be adapted. AFAIK the wiper transmissions are the same between single speed and variable speed those years, but, the '64 transmission pivots use bolt-on wiper arms, whereas the '65-6 use the push-on arms. You'll also need the wiring, washer pump, hoses, T-fitting, nozzles, and reservoir too of course. Early A's used the Jiffy Jet bag and bracket. Later models used the plastic reservoir. All '66 and earlier A-bodies used the remote pump that mounted on the inner fender.
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I have no doubt this would be the correct way of doing it, but I'm not wanting to change everything out just for a switch to run an electric motor to spray the windshield. I'll see what I can figure out. If it's a foot switch, separate dash switch or something else, it won't be the first time this car has odd-ball configuration on it since nothing else matches. Ha! Thank you for the info.
 
I'm trying to remember if you could get the washer option with single speed wipers in 1964. It may be that you had to order the variable wipers to get it. I seem to remember some switches had a black center button on the switch to run the washer and others you just pushed the knob in to get the washer to work. If all the switches have the washer feature whether the car does or not, you might be able rig up some wiring and a pump to do the job. Does your switch knob/post push in against spring pressure? If so, there may be some unused terminals on the switch that operate the washer option.
 
That's what I initially thought since the knob does plunge a bit, but I don't think it's a button. There's no unused connectors on the back of the switch. From all the research I've been doing, it seems the button for the washers is only on variable speed, 2 or 3 speed wiper switches.

I did find a single speed Mopar switch used for a 1965 Dodge Polara and Monaco, but the shaft is very long. I was thinking about taking a chance on one and see if I could mount it since mine is already using a washer. It would just hang further back than my original. Wouldn't be able to tell from the front, but the back side would be comical.
 
Witchboard said:
That's what I initially thought since the knob does plunge a bit, but I don't think it's a button. There's no unused connectors on the back of the switch. From all the research I've been doing, it seems the button for the washers is only on variable speed, 2 or 3 speed wiper switches.

I did find a single speed Mopar switch used for a 1965 Dodge Polara and Monaco, but the shaft is very long. I was thinking about taking a chance on one and see if I could mount it since mine is already using a washer. It would just hang further back than my original. Wouldn't be able to tell from the front, but the back side would be comical.
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In the '64-6 A-bodies there were only single speed and variable speed wipers....no 2 or 3 speed ones. In '66 they were all variable speed.
 
My latest research in post Wiper Switches - take 5?
It appears that cars until 1966 (or 65) offered only single-speed or variable-speed. Later cars offered only 2-spd or 3-spd using resistors on the motor (now in engine bay). The washer push-button function was optional. You have a "W" terminal to a tan wire which routes into the engine bay if the option. All premium switches (variable or 3-spd) might have had the "W" option. Of course a switch with "W" can be used with no-washer wiring, or you can run a wire yourself to engine bay (I did), preferably using an open bulkhead position. Pretty sure my 1969 Dart "Custom" didn't have the "W" option since it had the "rubber bulb - foot pump washer".
 
BillGrissom said:
My latest research in post Wiper Switches - take 5?
It appears that cars until 1966 (or 65) offered only single-speed or variable-speed. Later cars offered only 2-spd or 3-spd using resistors on the motor (now in engine bay). The washer push-button function was optional. You have a "W" terminal to a tan wire which routes into the engine bay if the option. All premium switches (variable or 3-spd) might have had the "W" option. Of course a switch with "W" can be used with no-washer wiring, or you can run a wire yourself to engine bay (I did), preferably using an open bulkhead position. Pretty sure my 1969 Dart "Custom" didn't have the "W" option since it had the "rubber bulb - foot pump washer".
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Nice!
Feel free to borrow from the discussion I linked to earlier, and the thread that in turn links to.
In it we try to cover the wiring, wiper motor assemblies, and switches for four variations we identified for 1967.
The 'white plate' motor seems to be a holdover from 1966.
 
Mattax said:
Nice!
Feel free to borrow from the discussion I linked to earlier, and the thread that in turn links to.
In it we try to cover the wiring, wiper motor assemblies, and switches for four variations we identified for 1967.
The 'white plate' motor seems to be a holdover from 1966.
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Maybe in a B-body. All the '66 A-bodies have the interior mounted wiper motor that doesn't have that plate.
 
cudamark said:
Maybe in a B-body. All the '66 A-bodies have the interior mounted wiper motor that doesn't have that plate.
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Thanks I'll have to go back and see why I thought it was also used in '66. It may have been that list which is a copu of a copy of a list I *think* Jules the Wiperman made. I cant recall if I ever found shop manual info on it. I do recall that its not covered in the '67 Plymouth FSM.
 
Is there already an article about how to check when the wiper motor park doesn’t stop. I recently picked up from Carlisle a variable speed switch now I have both parts, but when I turn the wipers off, it goes to slower speed which I think should be park and keeps rotating.
 
It's because inside the motor itself theres a set of park contacts with a plastic ramp or eccentric with a plastic peg. When you flip the dash switch to off, the internal contacts in the dash switch move to the park contacts in the switch. This let's the wiper motor continue to rotate until the plastic ramp , eccentric, or peg separates the contacts in the wiper motor. This turns the motor off. This piece is likely broken. The round cover on the wiper with the wiring soldered to it is where the parking contactor is located.
 
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