Dartin for Divorce

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fishmens67 said:
You'll have at least 50 K in that convertible to make it a respectable driver.
and that's if you do all the work.
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Cost of building a car?
1. Initial cot of project
2. all labor...you do it all so NO labor? How many people can do it ALL!?
. Cost of all parts. Pretty easy to make a good estimate on. A. interior B. Glass C. suspension inc. driveshaft, rear end, brakes,tires/wheels D. engine/trans. E. Body/paint...all added to initial cost of project.
Get out the calculator and get real. Engine. $2500 or $10,000 it can go either way for st one example.
I have seen some peeps claim they have $8000 just in cost of paint! What are they smoking?
I assume that $50,000 inc the cost of the initial project,ie. this vert?
 
barbee6043 said:
Cost of building a car?
1. Initial cot of project
2. all labor...you do it all so NO labor? How many people can do it ALL!?
. Cost of all parts. Pretty easy to make a good estimate on. A. interior B. Glass C. suspension inc. driveshaft, rear end, brakes,tires/wheels D. engine/trans. E. Body/paint...all added to initial cost of project.
Get out the calculator and get real. Engine. $2500 or $10,000 it can go either way for st one example.
I have seen some peeps claim they have $8000 just in cost of paint! What are they smoking?
I assume that $50,000 inc the cost of the initial project,ie. this vert?
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Yes it is a convertible. 1970, 318 car, triple black. No build sheet or fender tag, but has title, vin and door tag* (something about the door vin thing).

I try to do all of my own work... except paint and body work... but why cant I give it a try?

Here is another one...

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I suggest you build up your tool inventory before you tackle a restoration.
You probably will spend 20 grand on getting a good selection of tools and air accessories.
 
DentalDart said:
I could probably buy every tool in harbor freight for less than 5k :poke::rofl:
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You probably could. lol
That's one thing I can say is, all my tools are American made, some over 60 years old.
My tool buying day's ended about 15 years ago.
I built tool set's for my son's from my overflow. You don't need five of everything .
 
You don't wanna know the cost of a quality paint job.

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fishmens67 said:
I suggest you build up your tool inventory before you tackle a restoration.
You probably will spend 20 grand on getting a good selection of tools and air accessories.
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You Fancy Nancys! I have built how many Mopars since the mid 80s and I have never had anywhere near that in tools!!! Wow you guys! But I agree you must have adequate tools, a place to work, $$$ and adequate skill level. And a lovin wife!
Doc. I just told you how to figure (estimate) the cost to build that vert. Figure it and then ask how many hours you want to give it and decide your path to take!
 
in 2017 I had my truck painted & metal worked. Metal work consisted of replacing both front outer fenders (inner wheel wells are welded to the fenders), both rear wheel arches and installation of a new Driver's front door. I had about $2k in parts and $9k in paint & metal.

Consider that I was only paying $60/hr labor and bump to today's prices...

Paint ain't cheap.
 
There are three ways to paint these old cars.
1. Pay a good resto shop and have perfect work and a TON of $$$ in the body/paint.
2. Take it to a collision shop that will say, "we will work on it when we don't have ins. work and bill you as we do it
3. Learn to do the work yourself
Well actually there is a 4th way. Find a hard working young guy that has the skills, a place to work, and the equipment and will do it after hours for a reasonable $ and get it done on time, or even harder, find this type that is retired and bored!

1. is expensive. 2. Takes years and you end up screwed. 3. It costs you basically materials and the work is as good or bad as YOU desire. 4. that is usually the best and the hardest to accomplish!
 
barbee6043 said:
You Fancy Nancys! I have built how many Mopars since the mid 80s and I have never had anywhere near that in tools!!! Wow you guys! But I agree you must have adequate tools, a place to work, $$$ and adequate skill level. And a lovin wife!
Doc. I just told you how to figure (estimate) the cost to build that vert. Figure it and then ask how many hours you want to give it and decide your path to take!
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I did a rough estimate... with the big stuff. Its all the little **** that adds up and adds up fast.

Front/rear Disc brake kit 1500, rear end 1k, seat covers (except rear seat) 1k, transmission 1k, top totally redone 2k (with everything, found a kit in Michigan for 700) engine 5k, paint 4k... hardest part would be putting it together.

Im decent at finding deals...

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Its always best to buy a complete car. A vertespecially (trim rear seats) thats missing stuff gets expensive. But a guy does not have to spend top $$ on everything to have a nice car. For stance, F body f. disc off Volare/Aspen a'int $1500. Not everyone has to spend $10,000 on the drivetrain. But I admit I'm cheap!
I have built these verts: 69 383 RR, a 68 383 Sport Satelite, a 318 Challenger, 383 71 SE Challenger that came with all the RT stuff (they did not make a 71 Challenger RT vert per say), (it did come with a factory side stripe less the "RT"), a 65 Dodge Coronet. Personally I do not care for Verts. But like they say, the top goes down the price goes up!
 
DentalDart said:
Yes it is a convertible. 1970, 318 car, triple black. No build sheet or fender tag, but has title, vin and door tag* (something about the door vin thing).

I try to do all of my own work... except paint and body work... but why cant I give it a try?

Here is another one...

1970 Challenger Convertible Project - cars & trucks - by owner -...
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You should give it a try - just be aware of how costs can spiral. Any of these projects is going to be lots of rust repair, full interior kit if you want it 'nice', and a new top plus rebuild the mechanism. Convertible tops aren't easy - you can try it yourself, but based on past experience, it seems like DIY guys need at least 2 tries (2x the cost) and then the second attempt is about a 70% result. Hire that part out.

The rest you can do, all depends on your expectations. You got a creampuff of a dart to start with - but something that's fully disassembled with 'all the parts' piled into the rolling chassis is a much bigger project. It can be done, but don't count on all the parts being there - or even being for the same year car! It happens!
 
A guy needs to totally part out a few cars of the model that he will one day want to put together from a roller in many boxes! A Chineese man said that once. (Confushus.... OK so I can't spell in Chineese!???)
 
This can be his retirement project. Wait! He's only in his 30's But I'll still stand behind the statement. :poke:
 
barbee6043 said:
Its always best to buy a complete car. A vertespecially (trim rear seats) thats missing stuff gets expensive. But a guy does not have to spend top $$ on everything to have a nice car. For stance, F body f. disc off Volare/Aspen a'int $1500. Not everyone has to spend $10,000 on the drivetrain. But I admit I'm cheap!
I have built these verts: 69 383 RR, a 68 383 Sport Satelite, a 318 Challenger, 383 71 SE Challenger that came with all the RT stuff (they did not make a 71 Challenger RT vert per say), (it did come with a factory side stripe less the "RT"), a 65 Dodge Coronet. Personally I do not care for Verts. But like they say, the top goes down the price goes up!
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How much do rear seats for convertibles sell for?
 
engine and accessories 8k +
Transmission, convertor, rearend and accessories 4k+
interior and accessories 2k+
all brake hardware, all suspension parts 3k+
electrical components and wiring 1k+
wheels and tires 2k+
body work/ misc body parts and prep and paint 10-15k+
misc. nik nacks. lol 500+
cost of car??????
 
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