Stop in for a cup of coffee

I read it hackberry isn't that bad and makes great firewood.
There's one in the neighbor's backyard behind us. The birds and squirrls love it. It's not too bad - a little messy - not much worse than oak or maple. See worse aphid issues on other trees, including my Hawthorne. :( I'm planting some alysum this year hoping it attracts natural predators called syphlid flies.