Electrical Main Panel

kiwigtx said
....same here, in addition to getting into the **** big time for not being a Registered Electrician while carrying out prescribed electrical works. Homeowner or not.....if you're not qualified......don't play with it.

Rules may vary in different countries. :rolleyes:

clementine said
Hey Fellas,
Thank you for all the advice. A LOT of help here! I am going with the suggestions of using the space freed up by the breakers in the main panel moving to the sub to put in my 100 AMP breaker to feed sub. I think that its the safest way at this point although I am very interested in your MO there Heel bear toe @Treblig. This is the way I am going at this point to get things up and running. The feed line has to be run either way. I can always pull a permit later to change panel and make the feed line to sub "go away" if I dont want to draw attention to the remodel. I think the intention of the permitting process has its merits and intention is to keep things safe, although I have a few opinions (based in possibly not enough information) about other things like who wrote the code on AFCI? Where they greased by the breaker industry? And....What happens if the permitted/inspected FLOW GUARD CPVC pipes fail? I mean, they passed inspection so........well it wont be the city. So yes leave line voltage to the pros....for now. Or be ready and waiting with all the stuff ready to go and then when the power goes out I can pull the meter, swap the panel, and leave the seal on, but clipped. They dont come around much and when they do......must have been those darn kids next door.:rofl:

But sincerely,
Thank you, I knew I had asked the right people.

The security clips that they usually use are basically a wire looped through the panel latch. The wire inserts into the plastic piece and is pretty much tamper proof. However, you can cut the wire as close as possible to the plastic piece (where it inserts into the plastic). After you're done with the panel/meter you simply reinstall the plastic clip and carefully shove the remaining wire up into the plastic piece right next to the original wire. It will basically get stuck up in there. If/when the electric company guy ever comes to replace the meter (happens every 10/15 years) he'll simply grasp the clip and cut the wire not realizing that it's already cut. Since the original wire is jammed up in there no one is the wiser, they always throw away the clip not giving it a second thought. I've done this more than once and the electric company contractor never thinks twice when he grabs the plastic clip and cuts the wire.

PS - I've only ever done this to temporarily work on my main panel.