Steering column coupler removal?

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I currently have the engine out of my 67 Barracuda is it possible to remove the power steering box to remove the column coupler? I do have the car on a 4 post lift so getting under it is not an issue. My old beat up neck will not let me work under the dash to remove the steering column. Canit be done by just removing the box?
Thanks
Jim K
 
Technically.

If you disassemble the coupler in place, the box with the body of the coupler can come out of the engine bay, leaving the steering shaft and parts of the coupler in place.
 
Dana67Dart said:
Technically.

If you disassemble the coupler in place, the box with the body of the coupler can come out of the engine bay, leaving the steering shaft and parts of the coupler in place.
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I was hoping to get it out in one piece replace the seal and retainer and reinstall it in one piece
Looks like this is not going to be fun.
 
With the coupler and gear out you can remove the roll pin and rebuild the coupler on the shaft then put the box back in and reinstall the roll pin.
 
512Stroker said:
I currently have the engine out of my 67 Barracuda is it possible to remove the power steering box to remove the column coupler? I do have the car on a 4 post lift so getting under it is not an issue. My old beat up neck will not let me work under the dash to remove the steering column. Canit be done by just removing the box?
Thanks
Jim K
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What's the goal? Rebuilding the coupler or removing the column?
 
Hi I did what you want to do last spring. I followed this YouTube video but I didn’t remove the steering wheel from the shaft. Taping the wheel to the column so it doesn’t spin thing the wheel face down on the floor with cardboard and a cloth over it I didn’t get scratches. You’re gonna have to remove the pin on the column to get that seal in/out and it’s easier to put the cover on and get those tangs locked better out of the car than in it. There’s also a locking bar thing that slides in the pin when you put it back on the box that helps keep the seal in place, I haven’t looked yet but I’ve seen some people on here do it.
 
512Stroker said:
I was hoping to get it out in one piece replace the seal and retainer and reinstall it in one piece
Looks like this is not going to be fun.
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Yeah, I doubt you can do that without taking the k-member loose. I don't think you can move the steering gear off to the side enough to pull the coupler off the input shaft of the box. '67 has a lower bearing on the column which doesn't allow much play in the column center shaft. You'll find out soon enough if you try! :lol:
 
Anyone know which way new coupler seal goes?

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Hi all-

Quick question. I don't see an obvious spline in the coupler thread to align with the spline on the steeing box. The steering box that I pulled out also did not have any splines on the thread....

Is the smal hole on the body of coupler the way to align this? Also, there was no pin/clamp on the coupler assembly before I rebuilt it. I assume the answer is yes but is this a mandatory step?

Thanks
JM

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The round hole(bigger one) at approx 3 o'clock takes a roll pin to keep the coupler attached to splines. There is splines in there. Stick her finger in it.
 
4spdragtop said:
The round hole(bigger one) at approx 3 o'clock takes a roll pin to keep the coupler attached to splines. There is splines in there. Stick her finger in it.
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Ok thanks... spline is pretty hard to see but it looks like it does match up to that smaller hole... that coupler was not installed when I started this rebuild. I guess Ill try to find one online. I assume that you install the pin AFTER you fully connect up the coupling to the steering box shaft?
 
Don't forget to time it when it goes back together so your steering wheel will be straight .
 
I just went through this on mine, it was very difficult to get the coupler back on the box, mine was an extremely tight fit. There is a different spline at the 12 o'clock position on the steering box, when it is centered, and the coupler has a matching one, needing to be lined up perfectly. I was able to center my steering wheel, which put the coupler in the correct orientation. From there it took lots of pry bars, hammers and punches to get the coupler seated all the way. I thought I had the cover crimped on good, but through all of the effort it took to get the coupler seated on the box, my cover had popped loose so I also used the spring clip on top of the cover/seal to hold it in place.
 
Guys, I feel like a noob here so please bear with me... I bought a new PST steering box and i can clearly see the timing spline on the box. I tried to put the old coupler on the new box and was having a heck of a time getting it on ( I think I had the timing spline lined up but it was pretty hard to see). I decided to get the alternate version of the coupler (left one in picture) as I understood that they would be intergeable but I am not seeing a timing spline on the newer application. Any thoughts on how I line this one up to make sure steering wheel is on center?

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4spdragtop said:
Does your shaft have the "orienting " spline?
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Thanks. Not sure... I think it's a stock 65 shaft so how would I find that? Is it the little hole on the shaft?

Separately, I found this post which has lots of helpful info including the attached pic: 65 Cuda Power Steering Box and Coupler Installation Issues

The rub is there is no "master spline notch" on my new coupler and it doesn't look like there is a master spline in the position that the pic suggests it should be in.

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Not sure about 65's. Heres our 67 ps coupler. No orientation spline. You should be able to feel the splines on box and on column.

JM Ferat said:
Thanks. Not sure... I think it's a stock 65 shaft so how would I find that? Is it the little hole on the shaft?

Separately, I found this post which has lots of helpful info including the attached pic: 65 Cuda Power Steering Box and Coupler Installation Issues

The rub is there is no "master spline notch" on my new coupler and it doesn't look like there is a master spline in the position that the pic suggests it should be in.

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