360 stroker how much HP is picked up if everything else stays the same?

The thing I commented on was the MP 383 vs the Chevy 383. You mentioned the 360 vs the 408. Notice the torque curves on the 383/383 engines. I guessed opposite on the curves. It was actually a 383 vs 406. Steve D bored the 383 out some. IMO, the MoPar lost except in early torque production. I loved the shoot out.

The longer stroke is more volume of air & fuel this delivering more power in the intake charge. It’s not in the stroke itself but what the stroke brings into the cylinder. Valve shrouding is an issue but normally I think it’s over rated.

A large bore or a short stroke and it’s frictional losses.
I have pondered that and find it hard to measure such a thing in my head. The longer stroke dragging rings for more distance or a lot more ring dragging around for short trips. Second choice is mine. But what are the differences in total area of the rings in question and how much movement on what displacements are we talking about.

What was thanksgiving hilarious post earlier…..

OH yes! 2 inch bore & 6 inch stroke….
LMAO!
I’ll have to have run later on the Wallace CID calc and come up with some wacko B&S combo.

But I’m with ya. A lot depends on the build target right?!?! Oh! And how much sci nice the combo gets.
How fine of an engine it is or will become.

To bad this **** ain’t free so we can all drink beer and make cool to wacko combos all year for fun.

It makes a ton of sense to me - piston area goes up with the square of the radius of the bore, but torque goes up linearly with the increase in throw. But rod angle takes some away from the throw increase, larger bores have few drawbacks other than production cost and sometimes piston weight.

Longer bores help to increase compression due to the larger swept area, and the longer stroke can help build more intake charge momentum and change some of the resonant tuning as a result. But otherwise, the longer stroke just causes the piston to move faster (and farther) at a given rpm, which isn't always good. Flame fronts only go so fast, and friction forces are cumulative. Not to mention that trying to flow more air into the cylinder, but with valves hemmed in by the bore is often a losing proposition.

A short stroke, large bore motor will probably always out power a long stroke motor (of the same displacement). Not to mention that short strokes can shorten the intake path, make it more direct to the carb bores, and fit larger valves. Makes for a potent combo.

I think most strokers gain their torque (and thus hp) from the longer arm and not necessarily the increased volume. The air charge can only expand so much before it becomes a diminishing return. There's a 13% difference in stroke going from 3.58 to 4.0", but the rod angle (73 vs just under 71) is about a 5% change, so maybe a final torque/power gain of 7-10% over a stock stroke, but that same 13% increase in stroke is 13% faster peak piston speed and travel distance, so more friction. Friction is a function of normal force, and not area, so a larger bore pays no friction penalty.

There's got to be a reason most modern production engines are close to the same stroke length and rarely over about 3.75 (for a gasoline powerplant).