I never said that I was buying headers or anything else for that matter. Why is it that every time I make a comment or ask a question, you guys seem to make assumptions? FYI, sometimes I ask about something about a particular topic for the sake of trying to learn something or to see if I would want to use the part or the modification on my own car sometime. Just because someone asks about something doesn't mean that they are buying the part or doing a certain modification to their car right at that time. I don't want to sound like a jerk but believe it or not asking questions is how we learn. I've put up with a lot on here but no more. I try to treat everyone on here with respect, I'm not perfect and I don't claim to be. We're suppose to be on here to share knowledge, experience and so on. And too, not everyone needs or can afford high dollar parts so there far they may have to buy or go a different route.don't you have to have a car to buy headers for before you buy them? just saying.