Yeah, the quality of those springs really fell off when MP moved all the production to Mexico. It seemed like it got worse as it went too.
I have set I haven’t run, but I was not super impressed by their general appearance. The AFCO springs I have on my Duster are much better, but due to some kind of licensing deal when the MP circle track springs came back AFCO stopped making the 121 lb/in springs they were offering. Not a good trade IMO.
Thanks that’s why I said I don’t know about torsion bars. I don’t know how far you can lower with tosion bars and if affects geometry and performance if you max out the lower ride height.
Depending on the spring rate of thr tosion bars you run you can lower up to 2” or so, which is about as low as you can go with anything because you run out of wheel well with any decently tall tire and reasonable suspension travel.
The torsion bar suspension geometry improves when the car is lowered, best geometry for that suspension with radial tires actually occurs when the car is lowered close to 2”. Performance improves as long as you keep the spring rate and the amount of lowering you’re doing matched up.