can you believe it? another torsion bar question?? 1.03" vs 1.08"

I have sway-a-way 1.14" bars in my Duster (avatar pic). It is intended primarily for track use. The ride is firm but not really any firmer than your typical late-model import sedan. At that stiffness though you need some wide grippy front tires to take advantage of it or it'll just understeer all over the place. I previously had 1.00" bars which were too soft once I upgraded to the current wheel/tire combo, it would hit the bump stops in really hard cornering. But once I put the 1.14" bars in I had to dial in more camber (went from basically zero to -2.0°) to keep it from under steering. It has a pretty nice neutral feel in the corners now. Car also has Hellwig front and rear sway bars with the rear being adjustable and it's on the stiffest setting, also running Hotchkis leaves in the rear. It handles really nicely except in quick back-and-forth stuff (slalom) because the shocks are just stock replacement junk and have way too low of a damping rate to control the wheels.

So in summary, from my experience 1.08" or bigger will work fine but to get the most out of them you need good shocks and wide grippy tires. And stiffened up rear suspension so it doesn't understeer like crazy.

I.... wow.. this was exactly what I needed to hear.. and I believe I've seen this reply from you in a couple other places. I remember specifically the sway kit name and honestly coming from certain drift/grip setups, 2 degrees of camber is NICE. I could take that.

I would love to run a wider setup up front but I'm already running in to some rubbing issues that have got me a bit stumped, so I'm very quickly trying to figure that out. Would love to tuck maybe a 215 or 225 or larger depending on how much more clearance I'll be able to figure out. I come from tracking miatas and some older porches and drifting 240sx/ae86/rx7's so ride quality should be all good from what you were saying. Shocks right now are just the 3 way adjustable comp engineering but already saving for some bilsteins/ looking in to others. Also looking in to upgraded leaf packs, probably just the mopar hd's or something similar


The sway bars are definitely something I want to be adding but kind of and in a fun way I would love to take it out to a track once without them and then again after install just to really see the difference. Everything in steps I guess.

Thank you again seriously

-kiyoshi