Guns, Dogs and Blades QnA

i know its a bit early, but lets consider Christmas presents here

im thinking of buying my boy a gun, something of the "hiking carabine" type

i know he would love the Henry ar-9

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the cool thing about this gun is that the barrel, magazines and trigger group all fit into the stock, in a water tight compartment
the downside is it is a .22
cheap and fun to shoot but low on take down power

along those lines, im sure i could get a ruger 10/22 in a take down stock and he would be set for life trying to customize that


my second contender is the kel-tec sub-2000 (in a 9MM)
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slightly more powerful, but perhaps not as easily packable?
could also be had in a .40 S&W
of course, the larger the caliber, the more pennies per shot


im open to suggestions (and offers if you got one for sale)

Cool little pieces. I guess the thing I look for is the intended function. If it's truly to use as a "survival" rifle then the stock-packed one in a pistol caliber is handy. That being it is compact, can be a single caliber across hand and long gun, easy to toss into a pack but not intended for immediate use.

Otherwise, weight and dimensions matter. Long movements with rifle and pack can be a challenge so weight matters. carrying additional .22 rimfire ammo is almost negligible if you're just tossing an extra box of 100 somewhere.