I need schooling - old vs. new engines

Ok, so you are saying peak flow number comparisons aren't going to be the best way to compare cylinder heads. Fair enough.



Can you explain that a little more? Better in what way? Packaging? Smaller valve cover?



I'm not trying to say you can't get a LA/Magnum to cold start and idle. I'm just saying that a carb'ed 408 isn't going to do either as well as a 5.7 or 6.4. And the more ragged edge the 408 is built, the less likely it will do it without constant tweaking.



I guess I am looking at it from an "other than theoretical" position. I love the ide a of a W2 headed smallblock. But the idea of finding all the parts and making them work together makes me say a 5.7 is the better way. Would a W2 outrun a 5.7 if they were equally built? Maybe, don't really care. Could you build a W2 headed motor that has equal drivability as a small cammed 5.7 and still outrun it? I have doubts.

I would love to see that done though. Don't get me wrong. And it might already have been done. I know @racerjoe has a trick SBM with EFI and CNP. Maybe he would be a good one to give input on building a nice driving SBM that get's good fuel economy and makes great power. Another one is @goldduster318. He has a fully EFI'ed SBM and even a T56.

I guess they way I see it, I can buy a BP 465 hp crate motor for $9K and get probably 16 mpg. Or I can do a complete 5.7 swap, including a 6.4 cam and intake, and make about the same power but with 25+ mpg and better drivability. Maybe as you assert the G3 Hemi head isn't as good as the Edelbrocks on the BP motor, but the results kind of say otherwise.


I run a 408", 242@ .050"/.594 lift solid roller cam, Indybrock heads, 9.5 compression with sequential fuel and spark EFI. TKO500 trans with a 3.91 gear. I've never optimized the tune for fuel economy, but I don't see any reason why I couldn't get 18-19MPG out of it by simply taking some fuel out of it at and advancing the timing to around 40-42 at cruise speed. I haven't tracked MPG lately, but the last time I did, I drove like a normal person and it got around 16MPG. Throw a 6 speed in it, or even a 3.23 gear with an optimized tune, I bet 20MPG is easily attainable. My car idles at 850-875RPM.

All this being said, it's a great running motor, cold starts well, idles well, makes good power, but I still want to G3 swap my car.....Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment.