I need schooling - old vs. new engines

DionR said
What's a W8 or 9 head flow? And what do they cost? Do you have to buy a Ritter block to run them?

The W8 or 9 argument just seems like a different application to me. Can't see someone building a W8 motor to drive it on Route 66. Seems like the W8 head is more drag race or circle track application, which doesn't really seam to fit the thread as well.

Not really an apples to apples comparison to talk about W8 or 9 heads since only a select few can afford to run such a beast. Maybe the new TF head would be a better comparison? Oh wait they only beat the pre-Eagle 5.7 head but can't keep up with the Eagle head or the Apache 6.4 head out of the box.

Think 5.9 Magnum block, 4" crank, TF heads and intake and a cam and compression combo you can drive to another state with. Then compare that to an 100K mile '09+ 5.7 with a cam and headers. The 5.7 will probably make close to the same numbers, but be much easier to drive, get far better mileage, not leak oil and start in the morning without drama.

Agree with you DionR.

The one thing that some seem to be missing here is the overall performance value of the complete package. If you are talking about comparing a stock LA platform to the G-3 platform . there's no contest. G-3 wins.

If you take the FI and computer systems off the Gen 3, you have altered the factory dynamics and performance as it wasn't intended to perform with a carb. Carb systems were develped for the Gen 3 , as far as I'm concerned, for people who didn't want to figure out how to transplant the complete package including fuel injection and the accompanying computer controls. It's the easy way out offered by the aftermarket to simplify installing a newer style hemi in an older vehicle.

" Ya, It's got a Hemi"

Great Marketing ploy drawing upon the phenominal success of the original hemi's in Nascar and NHRA.

Examples of fantastic builds on here of gen 3 transplants with the complete platform including Realwings phenominal award winning 69 Barracuda Formula S Convertible . No way that car performs as it did when original. Now it gets great fuel mileage, idles all day in traffic and has great power to boot. Best of both worlds , exactly what a lot of members on here are looking for.

Also, the Demon has 840 Horsepower, gets good fuel mileage, is emissions compliant and comes with a warranty. Think about what you have to do to get 840HP from an LA engine! It would hardly be driveable.

As far as Im concerned, fantastic engineering from Dodge makes this all possible.