I need schooling - old vs. new engines

To be as cordial as possible as this is a forum for discussion, I will give Mr Bastid his due. He is talking about engines only, not assembled packages that have been tested . He is correct that Gen 3 hemi blocks and cylinder heads alone using mechanical based carburation systems and none of the engine management electronics won't outperform the wedge motors especially using the W-series heads. Also, the older Gen 2 Hemi's were troublesome, needing plenty of tuning to stay running properly.

But, as the rest of us commented here, when you put together a "package' using the G-3 engine , associated fuel management and ignition systems that are computer controlled, and put it in a plug and play package its unbeatable. No La, BB or Rb engine in its "as produced' format will come close to a Gen 3 for driveability , fuel economy and, in the case of the HellCrate, raw power.

Here's my 408 Magnum . balanced , blueprinted, professional build 517hp at the crank.

Approximate cost $30,000,00

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Here's a 2017 Hellcat engine and transmission, approx 830 HP.

$14,000 US.



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Guess where I should have invested my money!

Not to offend you, but 22 years ago I made 540 HP on 408 inches with a way too small hydraulic roller and Edelbrock heads.

I could duplicate that today, add another 40 HP easy and do it for less than 15k.

And it would idle smooth and drive so easy a school girl could jump in it and be comfortable.