340 Vs 360

340 Vs 360

WOW! What a long reply…. Here we go…

Rat Bastid said
It’s only mental masturbation if you can’t keep up or you can’t differentiate between cost and value.

That I can but for some it’s a different goal post.

Rat Bastid said
Think about it. You and all the “street guys” are the ones who struggle with what a race engine is.

Incorrect! But then again, it’s a moving goal post and point of view.

Rat Bastid said
You have to post your defintion of “race” if you want to go down that rabbit hole. If you think 7500 is race RPM you are 30 years behind.

Point of view. I did ask your on several items with no reply so I’m waiting on you. But don’t bother going back because it’s more than a chore to search out questions I asked that you didn’t answer. It’s really not a big deal.

Rat Bastid said
Look at how many threads there are about the junk main girdles. That garbage wasn’t made because someone was sitting around, bored. There is a PROBLEM. And the problem is you can buy more horsepower cheaper than ever.

That’s for sure!

Rat Bastid said
How many guys buy a stroker kit? Damn near everyone. Unless you are as cheap as they come, you get a 4340 non twist forged crank (I’m old enough to remember when the non twist forging was a big deal…now no one mentions it because it’s so commonplace) and a set of 4340 rods with 7/16 cap screws. And you get a set of pistons that 30 years ago would have been “race only” stuff and even those things are obsolete because most of those pistons still have the 1/16, 1/16, 3/16 John Deere ring pack. They should ALL get 1mm ring packs but that’s still too “racey” even though your average Honda has a 1mm ring pack.

LMAO “John Deer” ring pack! Now that’s funny!

Rat Bastid said
Cams and induction have gotten better along with cylinder heads.

Agree

Rat Bastid said
And yet, with all that power available the VALUE of an aftermarket block is poo-poo‘d as a needless expense when in fact you waste money dumping all that money into a passenger car block that was designed and developed for 5000 RPM maximum and what?? 320 HP?

Not even

Rat Bastid said
These blocks bend and twist and flex and ring seal goes straight to hell. A main girdle won’t fix that. You have to run wider than needed bearing clearance because the block is not much better than a slightly under done noodle. So you have to give the flexing block more clearance so it doesn’t grab a bearing. A main girdle won’t fix that either.

It comes down to value and durability. Running a stock block and trying to make power is an exercise in pissing into a fan.

Ive taken apart hundreds of 500 plus HP engines over the years and not one single stock block wasn’t showing signs of distress.

The main bearings are showing odd wear. The main line is no longer round. Or straight. The bores are iffy at best. The head gaskets show sings of barely sealing up because the decks are so thin they move around like a cheap ***** on coke at a disco.

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they move around like a cheap ***** on coke at a disco.

That’s ducking fantastic!
Dude, I’m soooooo using that one! No doubt!

Rat Bastid said
So it’s not mental masturbation. It’s about learning and unlearning.

Learning what new technology allows not only in power but in durability. And unlearning nonsense like main girdles and aftermarket caps (the caps are great and strong but the block is still 5 day old oatmeal) and filling the block and all that monkey motion that doesn’t little or nothing.

Making power and stepping over donuts to grab dog turds is counter productive. And costly.

Sigh…. Yep! Agree