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No sir, all true and I have the evidence. You're the one swearing and stomping your feet, perhaps you'd like to back up your claims? Here's the evidence for everything I said-
Look at the Hotchkis Taxi. They did a tire comparison on the TireRack track, using the TireRack test driver. He put down faster lap times with that 4-door B body than he puts down with a 3-series BMW that he drives for a living testing tires. Same track, same driver, same tires, 4 door B-body vs modern 3 series BMW, with a driver that has way more hours in that BMW and has by his own admission not driven older pro-touring style cars. I think that says a lot about what these cars can do with their torsion bars.
Here's the video, it's little long. You can pretty much just start at the 3minute mark. At 4:30 you can watch the Hotchkis Taxi kicking butt. And at 6:00 min TireRack's professional driver goes into how the Hotckis Taxi is a full second a lap faster than the BMW 3 series, even though Woody (tirerack's driver) had never driven a "protouring set up car" before the test and has probably turned thousands of laps with that 3 series.
Here's a fully RMS suspended Duster losing in every category to the same Hotchkis Taxi. That's right, a fully RMS suspended Duster getting beat around the track by a torsion bar suspended, 4 door B-body. Physics alone should give it to the Duster just on weight and size, but that's not what happened.
2013 Muscle Car of the Year - Popular Hot Rodding Magazine
The head to head for those that don't like to do all the reading
Hotchkis Challenger vs a 2010 SRT8 Challenger. The SRT8 lost on the skid pad to the Hotchkis Challenger, yup, torsion bar E-body.
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 vs. 1970 Dodge Challenger
Another torsion bar E-body Challenger, winning SCCA and Moparty and other AutoX events.
’70 Challenger On Factory-Style Suspension is an Autocross Warrior
Won the vintage class at Moparty 2022
2022 Holley MoParty Presented By eBay Motors: Results And Awards
Again, for the OP, please do whatever you like. The HDK, RMS, and even QA1 systems are good ones. I don't know your build plans or how you plan on using the car, so really I can't say one way or another what's "best" for you. Coil over replacement systems have their advantages, but they also have their disadvantages compared to a modified torsion bar set up. You can usually save some money with a completely modified torsion bar suspension compared to any of the full coil over conversions, but it does depend on your plans. My point is just that if you want a great handling Mopar, you don't NEED a coil over conversion. If you just need to have a rack and pinion, well, that's the way to do it. All I'm trying to do is put all the information out there.
No sir, all true and I have the evidence. You're the one swearing and stomping your feet, perhaps you'd like to back up your claims? Here's the evidence for everything I said-
Look at the Hotchkis Taxi. They did a tire comparison on the TireRack track, using the TireRack test driver. He put down faster lap times with that 4-door B body than he puts down with a 3-series BMW that he drives for a living testing tires. Same track, same driver, same tires, 4 door B-body vs modern 3 series BMW, with a driver that has way more hours in that BMW and has by his own admission not driven older pro-touring style cars. I think that says a lot about what these cars can do with their torsion bars.
Here's the video, it's little long. You can pretty much just start at the 3minute mark. At 4:30 you can watch the Hotchkis Taxi kicking butt. And at 6:00 min TireRack's professional driver goes into how the Hotckis Taxi is a full second a lap faster than the BMW 3 series, even though Woody (tirerack's driver) had never driven a "protouring set up car" before the test and has probably turned thousands of laps with that 3 series.
Here's a fully RMS suspended Duster losing in every category to the same Hotchkis Taxi. That's right, a fully RMS suspended Duster getting beat around the track by a torsion bar suspended, 4 door B-body. Physics alone should give it to the Duster just on weight and size, but that's not what happened.
2013 Muscle Car of the Year - Popular Hot Rodding Magazine
The head to head for those that don't like to do all the reading
Hotchkis Challenger vs a 2010 SRT8 Challenger. The SRT8 lost on the skid pad to the Hotchkis Challenger, yup, torsion bar E-body.
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 vs. 1970 Dodge Challenger
Another torsion bar E-body Challenger, winning SCCA and Moparty and other AutoX events.
’70 Challenger On Factory-Style Suspension is an Autocross Warrior
Won the vintage class at Moparty 2022
2022 Holley MoParty Presented By eBay Motors: Results And Awards
Again, for the OP, please do whatever you like. The HDK, RMS, and even QA1 systems are good ones. I don't know your build plans or how you plan on using the car, so really I can't say one way or another what's "best" for you. Coil over replacement systems have their advantages, but they also have their disadvantages compared to a modified torsion bar set up. You can usually save some money with a completely modified torsion bar suspension compared to any of the full coil over conversions, but it does depend on your plans. My point is just that if you want a great handling Mopar, you don't NEED a coil over conversion. If you just need to have a rack and pinion, well, that's the way to do it. All I'm trying to do is put all the information out there.
