Starting issues

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Is this a stick or automatic?

If automatic, the neutral start switch is on the transmission. Three wires, the center wire leads up to one of the two "push on" flag terminals on the start relay. That terminal is grounded by the transmission switch in park or neutral

First, hold key to start while moving the shifter from park to neutral/ reverse and back. See if it tries to crank, or if you hear a click.

Next, take a meter/ test lamp and identify which of the two "push on" wires on the start relay is the start voltage from the key. This is often yellow. Ciip your meter on and twist the key. Should have power with key in "start." If so, reconnect, and now disconnect the dark wire on the remaining push on/ flag terminal. Jumper that to ground and make certain the car is in park, see if it cranks

If you have power on the yellow, and it won't crank with the other flag terminal grounded, you have a bad start relay

If you have a stick, the start relay normally only has ONE push on/ flag terminal, and what would have been the other is soldered to the case--which must
OK now we are getting somewhere.

Is this a stick or automatic?

If automatic, the neutral start switch is on the transmission. Three wires, the center wire leads up to one of the two "push on" flag terminals on the start relay. That terminal is grounded by the transmission switch in park or neutral

First, hold key to start while moving the shifter from park to neutral/ reverse and back. See if it tries to crank, or if you hear a click.

Next, take a meter/ test lamp and identify which of the two "push on" wires on the start relay is the start voltage from the key. This is often yellow. Ciip your meter on and twist the key. Should have power with key in "start." If so, reconnect, and now disconnect the dark wire on the remaining push on/ flag terminal. Jumper that to ground and make certain the car is in park, see if it cranks

If you have power on the yellow, and it won't crank with the other flag terminal grounded, you have a bad start relay

If you have a stick, the start relay normally only has ONE push on/ flag terminal, and what would have been the other is soldered to the case--which must be grounded.
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OK now we are getting somewhere.

Is this a stick or automatic?

If automatic, the neutral start switch is on the transmission. Three wires, the center wire leads up to one of the two "push on" flag terminals on the start relay. That terminal is grounded by the transmission switch in park or neutral

First, hold key to start while moving the shifter from park to neutral/ reverse and back. See if it tries to crank, or if you hear a click.

Next, take a meter/ test lamp and identify which of the two "push on" wires on the start relay is the start voltage from the key. This is often yellow. Ciip your meter on and twist the key. Should have power with key in "start." If so, reconnect, and now disconnect the dark wire on the remaining push on/ flag terminal. Jumper that to ground and make certain the car is in park, see if it cranks

If you have power on the yellow, and it won't crank with the other flag terminal grounded, you have a bad start relay

If you have a stick, the start relay normally only has ONE push on/ flag terminal, and what would have been the other is soldered to the case--which must be grounded.
I’ve tried to start it in park and neutral before and have heard a click will probably do everything else you said tomorrow and see if it’s the starter relay thank you very much for this info I’ll keep you updated