Hotchkis or QA1 all inclusive kits - which one?
i believe bergman can offer different size bars. the 1.08 are the ones he recommends. sway away offers 1.03, 1.08 and 1.114 so i'd guess he would sell any one of them you wanted.. and seriously, i doubt most would even know the difference. lol.... i'd much rather order from one stop shop, especially a small business who has been there and uses the parts they sell and can speak from their personal abody experience. especially being completely new to this style suspension.. but hey, thats me.
If someone can’t tell the difference between 1.03” bars and 1.14” bars they probably shouldn’t be doing suspension work! If his bars are from Sway Away that makes sense, more options there for sure.
Firm Feel is also a small business that has been making Mopar suspension and steering products for a long time and has a ton of experience. So is DoctorDiff, for that matter.
Again, nothing against BergmanAutoCraft, I have plenty of BAC parts on my car and they’re awesome, Peter sells great stuff and he’s the only supplier for some of my favorite parts (Delrin bushings, modified SPC UCA’s). But I also have parts from Firm Feel, and DoctorDiff, and others.
Setting up a car depends a lot on application and driver’s preference, and getting it dialed in can mean sourcing parts from multiple places. The more options out there the better!
May have changed, but price point is still expensive.
No need to get into a pissing match again. Just throwing out options.
The Green Brick was a great start for
when it was, but tire compounds, shock technology, brakes etc have all made huge advances since then. The Green Brick would not be nearly as successful with that set up at todays street car challenges and AutoX’s.
And honestly, some of the stock parts used on the brick are not cheap to find in good condition anymore. The aluminum 3rd member sure as heck isn’t! Mopar Performance torsion bars aren’t cheap either. Innovative at the time, but it’s half measures compared to what’s available now.
This is exactly what I'm doing, throwing out options. There is nothing wrong with more offerings in the market. Expensive is also a relative term. It comes down to priority. Many put a large portion of their budget into engine work, only to neglect steering, suspension and brakes.
The goal of my company is to offer the best, not the cheapest. My 38 years of A body ownership with 250,000 road miles has taught me alot about what works and what doesn't.
The green brick had some good things for the time, but was also piloted by a driver who was fast and crashed twice during one lap.
Since then we have much better upper arms that can handle much more modern alignment specs that yield better performance for any driver. This increases confidence, safety and enjoyment. We now have delrin lower arm bushings, which help offer the same, except with the longest life, one and done. Better shocks, strut rods, tires, etc.
We are also the only company that offers any combination of steering and suspension in one place. Our suspension kits include pitmans, roller idlers and tie rods sets. Nobody else does that. We offer carbon kevlar pads and shoes for all mopars. Nobody else does that either. All under one roof, sold by someone who is reachable and knowledgeable.
Uh, Firm Feel offers suspension and steering parts in one place. You have a few more options, but, they still offer both.
When I built my Challenger, Firm Feel was really the only place to go for serious handling parts. Reinforced K frames, torsion bars, sway bars, rebuilt steering boxes with fast ratio chucks, poly and nylon bushings, tubular tie rod adjusters, pitman and idler arms, roller bearing idlers, sector support braces, adjustable strut rods (before QA1 made them!) custom leaf springs, Bilstein shocks, etc. And you can absolutely call them up and have a meaningful conversation about setting up your car for your own application, I have.
I’m not trying to knock you or your business, as you know I run a ton of your parts and I love all of them. The roller bearing idler I installed a little while back is awesome, and made a huge difference in steering effort. But, yeah, I have awesome parts from Firm Feel too. It’s great that there’s multiple places to go now where someone looking to set up a great handling Mopar can go or call and get experienced advice and great parts. The more options out there the better!
