Actually no. FEA was around in the '40's. The math behind it was around even before then. It wasn't widely used until computers could be used to carry out the modeling, because it's a long and tedious process to carry out all the calculations, especially as the mesh gets smaller. Check out the "history" section here...
Finite element method - Wikipedia Dude you are only stating the obvious and expanding on what I already shared
And you know what? Maybe the factory didn't specifically use FEA in the narrow sense you want to define it. Fine- maybe I was too broad with my statement, that was my mistake. We agree But the factory did absolutely engineer the K frame, calculating loads etc. I never said they didn't They didn't just carry out physical testing. Regardless, besides XV, no one has carried out that level of engineering. And that was my point. Which remains again, an unsupported claim
I don't care what the program cost, You cared enough to quote it I was just quoting what XV said. Why, I and others can read it ourselves Hence the quotations in my post. If you'd like to offer proof of XV's unverified claims, I admit, its hard to prove something that is not there LOL feel free. I doubt they'll be more egregious than any other aftermarket suspension manufacturers claims. Whatever
My mistake, I said "billet" when I meant extruded. I fixed my post to reflect the extruding tubing construction. Not sure it really matters, because you just said "welded aluminum", which was pictured, which is not everything which covers pretty much everything.
I have the feeling you've never welded cast aluminum, based on that comment. Your feelings would be incorrect I have, and welding extruded tubing is definitely easier. We were not discussing the ease of welding, we were discussing the ease at which a suitable welded connection can be made depending on the final welded properties of the materials to be joined And since you'll go bezerk,:drama: of course the metallurgy of the specific alloy also has an effect there. But with the widely used alloys that I've encountered, that's held true.
But you're trying to move the goalposts here. You didn't say anything about "current technology" or materials engineering, or any of that. You said- We were discussing a product designed and produced over 17 years with all its shortcomings, today different rules may apply for a number of reasons, and using the goalposts analogy, they have actually been moved literally, things change, thanks for noting that
And that, as I said before, and have shown since, is absolute horse puckey. How immaure Your claim was very generic, intentionally and any suspension components made in decent numbers which then excludes XV that are made from welded aluminum disproves it. Regarding the Bimmer front IFS alum cradle prior posted, I'd be curious what BMW sells that for, likely that one piece costs more than the entire IFS upgrade they were offering, comparing apples to oranges.
You don't like XV's welded aluminum K, We agree even though you have absolutely no evidence to show it's less up to the task than any of the other aftermarket K's. I'd say prove your claim, but none of the other aftermarket K's have published the engineering, if they've even done it. So it's just your unfounded opinion. I have made my case, we agree
When did "if I remember correctly" become a catch all to bury us in bullshit? When you will not admit it is a legit qualifier to in advance warn others not to assign undue importance to the dates being shared or other precise details, what you call "bullsjhit", if I remember correctly You go nuts :drama:when someone else makes what you consider to be an "unsupported claim" but want free rein to say whatever comes into your head as long as you say "if I recall correctly". Didn't know I needed anyone's permission to say whatever comes into my mind.
Well, newsflash, you don't remember correctly. Sorry, I'm human, and I know it. Question then becomes, do you have anything to remember real time from this saga 17+? years ago, and is your memory more accurate than mine?
The only lower radiator support that XV ever sold was steel tubing that welded to the bottom of the frame rails in place of the factory lower support. I believe I have not disputed that revelation Even if there was an aluminum prototype (to be attached how?) bolted?, that's not what any of us were talking about. Why then the constant obsession here? Get over it.
prototype, It's not what's in the article. Or the magazine. Or anything relevant to this thread. That is your opinion.
