Yeah and almost 100% of the time, when people complain about their rockers hitting the springs or retainers, it's because the rocker shafts need relocating, yet they will argue you into the ground. What's worse is, sometimes even more uninformed, ignorant people will chime in agreeing with them and arguing against. And HERE'S the thing. All you have to do is CALL MIKE and he will tell you FOR FREE how to check to see if you need shaft relocating shims. IT COSTS NOTHING to check and people still argue. Just ignorant as HELL.