All I'm saying if you wanted to be on a more level playfield as the 410 you need a little more stall and gears than you or what the average guy would run, say for eg. 367 & 3.91 vs 410 & 3.55, why I say optimal cause there's no further you can go. If I say 3.91 vs 3.55 then the other poster is gonna start a one up gear war until you get to optimal anyways. I'm not expecting people to run 4.30, 4.56, 4.88 or whatever squeezes the last bit of performance out of these combos.