BTW, the 8HP simulation and 2.65M iterations was a bust, couldn't get close to the performance of the 727 setup. I wouldn't be surprised if my slip percentages and such make it an invalid test though, the simulator just isn't sophisticated enough to make it work. Plus the gear ratio's don't make it a slam dunk either, with a 4.71 first gear and a 4.11 rear gear, the result was the trans was in 1st for 0.000 seconds, or such a short time it can't be displayed in the output. More gear splits have to be an advantage, but I couldn't show it with the tools I have.