Well I've been following this never-ending saga and have been surprised that it hasn't been mentioned about a reasonable offer might only be expected if a reasonable price is included ?? I recently seen at Carlisle (this month) pie tins for $800. Yes one pie tin $800 . I wouldn't even bother talking any further. I know people have paid $500 for some but not me. I saw some for $300 and if I truly needed one I might offer $225 to start and see what happens. That I consider a reasonable opening offer. Again all this is just an opinion and we all know about opinions.
Feel free to disagree, be offended, move on or continue to haggle.