Since I have the torsion bar equivalent of Tim's car, and we've raced together at Moparty, and in the CAM-T SCCA Challenge, I'll gladly give some pros and cons of both setups. Before I do, I'd like to say that Denny approached Tim a couple of years ago because Tim's Duster had been competing for a few years, and Tim had proven himself to be an up and coming driver. God knows he's a better driver than I am! Denny basically said break it if you can, and tell me what need to be improved. Not any other shop that I'm aware of has had enough confidence in their product to roll the dice on that proposition with someone outside the company, Denny did.