DOES THE HDK SUSPENSION K-MEMBER HANDLE BETTER THAN A T-BAR SUSPENSION?

So let me get this straight. HDK has zero advantages over torsionbars, the geometry is terrible, Tim Talbot, completely redesigned the kit because Denny didn't know what he was doing. Even with that, there is no advantage to this system even thought Tim street drives it 50 miles to and from his local autocross venue, races, comes home and then wins Grand Champion Vintage beating a Speedtech equipped car with 315s square, runs 12.29 @ 115MPH in the 1/4. But it's all juke, got it. I could watch CNN for this crap, but I don't

That's a pretty twisted straight line.

Never said an HDK didn't have it's advantages. I'm not going to rehash the pluses nor minus of both systems again, read the whole thread, not just a couple of posts that you don't like. They all have minuses and if you can't acknowledge that then you are working from emotion and are not rational.

Geometry is an unknown. So far we have some info from Tim that to start with, the geometry was terrible as the RC was underground. Tim improved it, no argument. Frankly, my idea of what good geometry is in flux, and he might have good geometry now. But he didn't start there.

I could quote Denny again where he said he didn't build the suspension for handling, but I won't. And yeah, whether it was Tim redesigning it, or Tim working with Denny to redesign it, in the end it isn't the same kit as before. Sure, some of that was do to a supplier, but without Tim it would have still been a kit with a RC in the ground. Not saying Denny did nothing, but until Tim was working with one it was pretty static.

The thing to acknowledge in the above statement is, it was a savvy move by Denny to get Tim involved. Per Denny's own words, he doesn't have the time, so why not involve someone who has shown the motivation to make stuff better. But Denny has also said that handling isn't his deal, so yeah, I think Tim was a big player in making it better.

Tim must have only beaten David in the drag race since he lost to him in the AutoX and the 3S. And no, I didn't ask Tim who beat him in the 3S to see if it was David, I figured he was 4th overall and the 3 ahead of him were late model cars with ABS.

Honestly working to keep this civil, not perfectly but trying. That's why I didn't respond when Denny called me an f'ing idiot, nor a railbird (other than pointing our it is a two way street). But this topic often is about defending our choices and that generally doesn't end with civil conversations regardless.