Continuing ignition timing debate from the 416 thread.

You’d be surprised. Go watch the video yourself. He did at least one on timing, compression ratio and how compression ratio doesnt affect timing. Nor does boost.

It was sad really because people watch that and think he’s correct but he’s not. I mean it seems simple doesnt it?

If you have a 10:1 engine and you bump the compression rate to 12:1 will it take the same timing? Of course not. Not only will the total timing be different the curve will be different.

If you are running 10 pounds of boost and you bump it to 15, would the timing be the same? No, it would not.

If you look close at the graphs he posts you can see when he’s missing it. The peak power goes up, but the bottom of the pull to around peak torque loses power. He blows it off because the engine doesn’t run at that rpm down the track. That is true, but many of those engines are drag and drive and I’ve seen a couple of NA engines that were street/strip stuff and he did the same thing.

I know that he’s hurt some engines on his dyno with too much timing. I know it for a fact because I got it from the horses mouth. He was a paid consultant for the testing and he kept telling Morris he was hurting it with timing. But he kept add in more timing and not paying attention to what was happening below and around peak torque.

I don’t have time or I’d go see if I could find the video where he talks about compression ratio, timing and all that.
I think some of what Steve does in the videos is for shock value HP numbers. Kill some for the goal of singular peak. For drag and drive, those guys put a cruise tune in. I am sure drastically different than race tune

I am loving this whole thread and discussions. Thank you all